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Old 12-14-2009, 07:36 PM
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Hauppauge HD-PVR

Do I need to install the Total Media that comes with the HD-PVR or does STV take care of everything?

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Old 12-14-2009, 08:11 PM
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No you don't, well not unless you want to use the decoders that it includes.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:58 PM
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Anyone have one of these that has it working 100%. It's still early but after an evening of messing with it I am not to impressed. The playback is jerky (live and recorded) and I can't get the IR blaster to change channels on my Comcast box. The quality of playback is not that great either, when there is fast motion in the playback the image starts to pixelate. Will try to work things out this weekend but in the mean time any advice from anyone?

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Old 12-15-2009, 05:42 AM
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any advice from anyone?

Steve
Keep working at it. This is currently the Number 1 method to get HD into your computer.

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Old 12-15-2009, 06:58 AM
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Anyone have one of these that has it working 100%. It's still early but after an evening of messing with it I am not to impressed. The playback is jerky (live and recorded) and I can't get the IR blaster to change channels on my Comcast box. The quality of playback is not that great either, when there is fast motion in the playback the image starts to pixelate. Will try to work things out this weekend but in the mean time any advice from anyone?

Steve
OK, I have had this intermittently as well, and always blamed it on the driver/hardware of the HD-PVR.

Here is what I stumbled on - in my case, it was my cable box being finnicky and not liking it it when it was not attached a certain way to the cable signal and the cable signal was at a certain level. I am pretty sure of this because I swapped out the patch cord to the cable run into my house, the component cable, and tried the cable box on 2 different displays that I have for testing purposes as well as TME app and Sage. The problem totally followed the cable box, and started as soon as I hooked up other analog feeds to my other analog tuners in my Sage server. To the second, as soon as they were hooked up I had tiling, jumpy video, sound drop, you name it.

I finally got the cable box on a seperate, high-quality 2-way splitter and isolated the analog feeds to my other sage tuners on their own feeds. So far the HD-PVR is behaving perfectly.

Long story short - it could be your cable box and/or some sort of feedback or signal level issue if you are splitting your cable around.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:20 PM
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Playback is very dependent on your video card and codecs. The recording is most likely fine. I would record a 30 minute show to test playback with so you have a consistent show to compare our changes to. You can also find some h.264 files on the net to compare to.

Post you Hardware and software setup to get decent advice on troubleshooting.
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:42 PM
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Playback is very dependent on your video card and codecs. The recording is most likely fine. I would record a 30 minute show to test playback with so you have a consistent show to compare our changes to. You can also find some h.264 files on the net to compare to.

Post you Hardware and software setup to get decent advice on troubleshooting.
SW - not to pick a nit or anything, but FWIW, my corrupted recordings played back incorrectly on several players, cards, and codecs I tested them on, including the HD200, PowerDVD, ATI 4670, 3870, and 4650 cards, 8600 GT card, Core AVC, SageTV and Cyberlink Decoder packs. Hardware accelerated and non-HW accelerated. You name it. The corruption and tiling was reproduced at exactly the same points no matter what. That's on top of the problem being reproduced on 2 monitors capable of displaying component signals.

I'm guessing there's enough RFI flying around, enough lousy shielding, and a fair amount of garbage being fed back through the common grounds on the A/C strips and and PDU's supplying a lot of our high end, complicated Sage setups that we set ourselves up for this sort of stuff.

Again, not picking a nit with you or anything. For me I could control the tiling at will by taking other feeds off the splitter. I would not be surprised if a lot of the tuner cards blast a lot of junk back into the cable splitters and such. I could make my PVR-USB2's analog feeds have diagonal interference patterns all over them just by moving them closer to my equipment rack.

Not saying you are not correct, but for me my problems went away when I got the HD-PVR on a high-quality splitter and away from the other analog Hauppauge cards.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:32 PM
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SW - not to pick a nit or anything, but FWIW, my corrupted recordings played back incorrectly on several players, cards, and codecs I tested them on, including the HD200, PowerDVD, ATI 4670, 3870, and 4650 cards, 8600 GT card, Core AVC, SageTV and Cyberlink Decoder packs. Hardware accelerated and non-HW accelerated. You name it. The corruption and tiling was reproduced at exactly the same points no matter what. That's on top of the problem being reproduced on 2 monitors capable of displaying component signals.

I'm guessing there's enough RFI flying around, enough lousy shielding, and a fair amount of garbage being fed back through the common grounds on the A/C strips and and PDU's supplying a lot of our high end, complicated Sage setups that we set ourselves up for this sort of stuff.

Again, not picking a nit with you or anything. For me I could control the tiling at will by taking other feeds off the splitter. I would not be surprised if a lot of the tuner cards blast a lot of junk back into the cable splitters and such. I could make my PVR-USB2's analog feeds have diagonal interference patterns all over them just by moving them closer to my equipment rack.

Not saying you are not correct, but for me my problems went away when I got the HD-PVR on a high-quality splitter and away from the other analog Hauppauge cards.
I don't doubt that is possible but a new user just setting up an HD-PVR it is most likely a playback issue with HD h264 files. Unfortunately is can be difficult to tell sometimes if you don't have multiple playback options. If you can rule one thing out then you know what area to concentrate on.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:31 PM
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Playback is very dependent on your video card and codecs.
Doesn't make since to me. Why would the video card and or codec be the issue when I have never had an issue with anything I have ever played. Not saying it isn't the issue, just don't understand why now it's an issue.

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Win7 32bit
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GeForce Nvida 9800GT (512 MB GDDR3) Capable of 1080p playback
2 Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250 tuner cards
1 Hauppauge HD-PVR

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Old 12-15-2009, 10:55 PM
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Doesn't make since to me. Why would the video card and or codec be the issue when I have never had an issue with anything I have ever played. Not saying it isn't the issue, just don't understand why now it's an issue.

System:

Win7 32bit
Asus P5B Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Dual Core 2.66 GHz
4 GB Ram
GeForce Nvida 9800GT (512 MB GDDR3) Capable of 1080p playback
2 Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250 tuner cards
1 Hauppauge HD-PVR
because HD PVR records in H264, and not mpeg2. That is why you have never noticed the problem before.

I would recommend installing TME so you can use the codec for playback.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:32 AM
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I would recommend installing TME so you can use the codec for playback.

Sounds good, will do that and see how thing go.

steve
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:36 AM
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because HD PVR records in H264, and not mpeg2. That is why you have never noticed the problem before.

I would recommend installing TME so you can use the codec for playback.
FYI, I installed the TME that came with mine. But the Arcsoft codec did not appear in the the list of H.264 codecs in the SageTV setup. In fact there were no codecs listed. I had to search for a Cyberlink codec. And today, I'm still having freezing and studder problems.

Was there some other way, I was supposed to find the codec that should have come with the HD-PVR install disk?
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:24 AM
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I think STV is the issue. Videos I recorded play just fine with Windows media player and the TM program that comes with the HD-PVR so that would tell me it's not my system.

Also i can't get STV to change channels on the cable box via the IR blaster. TM does it OK and I can use TitanTV to set up recordings but would be nice to use STV
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:44 PM
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I think STV is the issue. Videos I recorded play just fine with Windows media player and the TM program that comes with the HD-PVR so that would tell me it's not my system.
That's probably because your STV install isn't configured to use a hardware decoding codec like the one supplied with TME.

I believe the latest version of TME "hides" the Arcsoft codec.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:30 PM
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That's probably because your STV install isn't configured to use a hardware decoding codec like the one supplied with TME.

I believe the latest version of TME "hides" the Arcsoft codec.
Eric
That is very possible, I'm new to STV so I really am guessing when I set the advanced confg. settings. What do you mean by "hide" the codec? If it's hidden how do I find it with STV and select it if that is what I need to do? I didn't see it to select in the setup.

Below is my current video set up in STV. Tell me what is wrong or could be a better selection.

video rendering= EVR
MPEG2= default
MPEG4= Directshow
H.264 decoder filter= Cyberlink h.264/AVC
DCscaler Deinterlace filter= disabled.

My PC:

Win7 32bit
Asus P5B Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Dual Core 2.40 GHz
4 GB Ram
GeForce Nvida 9800GT (512 MB GDDR3) Capable of 1080p playback
2 Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250 tuner cards
1 Hauppauge HD-PVR

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Old 12-19-2009, 03:19 PM
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Have been using my HD-PVR for almost 2 months without a single glitch as long as I don't use Optical in. With optical in it stutters and freezes, with analogue it's perfect. tested 6 and 8 hours solid recording without any issues, plug back in optical and boom. Driver 1.5.6
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:53 PM
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I have only had mine freeze once, but I have only had it a week and have just begun to use it. I am just doing direct capture using the recording program, I am not set up scheduled recordings, haven't figured that out yet, can't get STV to correctly operate the Ir blaster. Have had not problem with optical in so far or freezing.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:49 PM
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What do you mean by "hide" the codec?
It's in your system but isn't shared with other programs such as SageTV.
I leave you to google you to make it shared.
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