Recordings off by a bit

[tangfj]

Sage recorded a bunch of shows last night on Comedy Central, most notably South Park. It was the one where the kids make Tweak and Craig fight each other.

Anyway, the recording was off by a minute or two and the ending was cut off. This has happened with a few shows I've recorded and it even messed up the recording for Chappelle's Show last night (cut off the beginning skit). Did this happen to anyone else? Is something wrong with my setup? I have Sage set to synchronize with the server time.

[mlbdude]

Some stations go by their own clock (lots in fact). I usually setup 1 minute of extra end padding to all my favorites. In fact my South Park First Run Favorite has 2 minutes.

[tangfj]

I only have two tuners in my system. Won't this cause problems if I have 2 shows recording with 2 set to record right afterwards?

[mlbdude]

If you have two tuners and two shows recording aftwerwords it won't help, but it won't cause problems. By default Sage will only record the extra padding you set if it can. Otherwise it will cutoff as usuall and record without the padding.

[Opus4]

Originally posted by mlbdude
By default Sage will only record the extra padding you set if it can. Otherwise it will cutoff as usuall and record without the padding.

Are you 2 talking about back-to-back shows on the same channel, or padded shows on separate channels? When I've tried this for separate channels, it threw a conflict. Is this playing into that other thread where the padding was recorded, a conflict was noted, and the conflicted show that wasn't listed in the scheduled recordings was recorded anyway, but it was missing the time that was taken to satisfy the padding requirements of the other shows? See:

conflicts still get recorded?

how to resolve this conflict?

I'm seeing some really unexpected comments on what is happening or what should happen in these situations.

- Andy

[Alex0230]

I am having the same problem, I'm going to verify my computer's clock is in synch with the atomic clocks. My shows were about 40 seconds off and so like tang, part of the Chappelle show was recorded in to my south park since they were back to back. I'm assuming part of the Daily show was mixed in to the Chappelle show since it was recorded right afer that...

Padding these shows wouldn't do much because I have only 1 tuner.....especially if it's a freak occurance and say the next time the shows are on time, my padding could possibly throw it off.

I'm starting to notice this trend the more and more I leave my computer on without a reboot. My suspicion is that my computer's clock is slowing down a bit...so I'll have to make sure it synchs up rather frequently...

[tangfj]

well, Opus4, to answer your question, I guess it would be both. I have some recordings that are back to back on the same channel and others that are not. Hopefully someone can find a solution for this, because I really don't want to spend more money right now and get more tuners (although I do want to get more, just not now )

[maximumpig]

here's somethin

http://www.softandco.com/System/c/11...ck%20Sync.html

god knows what kind of spyware or trojan or whatever it is

[TunaBoo]

Can you have backwards padding? Most shows start at like 3:00 or 2:59, but will easily end by 3:59. If you set your pre-show padding to -1 minute, and your post show padding to +1 minute, that would solve it. (it would record from 2:59-3:59 for a 3-4 show.

I am not at home, so I can't see if sage has this option...

[TunaBoo]

Originally posted by maximumpig
here's somethin

http://www.softandco.com/System/c/11...ck%20Sync.html

god knows what kind of spyware or trojan or whatever it is

Windows XP syncs automatically. For other OS's, There is a free little applet called "Atomic Time" that works great.

[wexsmith]

Maybe a "channel padding" is needed. I've noticed SpikeTV and with Comedy Central are about 1 minute ahead of all of my other channels. The ends of the shows from those two channels are very often cut off. All of my other channels recordings come out just fine.

I changed my registry setting so my clock syncs every 3 hours. So my computer time is pretty darn accurate all the time.

Adjust Time Synchronization

Remember don't mess with your registry if you're not comfortable doing it.

[Alex0230]

I found a link to this in the forums:

http://discuss2.snapstream.com/vb/sh...highlight=Time

Windows XP has a built in synch...but as your computer crunches all day long, it can get out of synch.... I would like to get more tuners eventually...until then, I'll see if this fixes that problem.

Sage does support backwards padding, but if I'm off by 40 seconds and I backwards pad a minute and I have a show that immediately follows....it's just a cover up to the problem and not a fix. Obviously if the show did not start at 10:00 like the guide says it did, that's another thing.....that's where padding comes in to try and make up for that.

Multiple tuners/padding is the ultimate/fix...

[mlbdude]

Unfortunately multiple tuners is the only real fix since the channels keep their own clock.

I have 3 tuners so it is possible that is has not occurred yet but I have never gotten a conflict thrown due to padding. Judging from the property name discussed earlier I would guess I have not run into it yet. Multi-tuner rocks .

[davey_fl]

I had this same problem with programs missing the end of the show - try telling your wife she can't watch the final couple of minutes of Law and Order to see what the court outcome is because it just "didn't get recorded". However, I'm now running a small app called automachron which syncs my htpc every 6 minutes, and I haven't had a problem since...

davey

[tangfj]

davey, so do you have the sync with server option within SageTV disabled? I think I might try this, but mlbdude seems to suggest that it could be because the station's clock is not right. You haven't had any problems since using automachron? Thanks a lot.

[mlbdude]

Since you can visually see a start difference between stations, syncing with any one time-source will not help. Comedy Central is pretty bad that way in particular.

[mikejaner]

Windows XP syncs automatically. For other OS's, There is a free little applet called "Atomic Time" that works great.

You can set 2000 Pro/Server, XP Home/Pro, 2003 Standard/Enterprise..... etc. Basically any Microsoft OS from 2000 on, to automatically sync with time servers on the internet if you want. No need to download extra programs.

Here's a working example, or you can lookup other time servers.
net time /setsntp:time.nist.gov

[Crowdx42]

I actually set my padding for 5 mins either side of a show, I have Comcast cable and when I started using Sage first it was missing beginnings of shows and ends also.. padding seems the only way to get around this, I have 3 tuners in my machine which helps a bit with this.
Patrick

[davey_fl]

yeah I have sagetv sync disabled. and with automachron I've had no other problems.

[Crowdx42]

Well my cable box sets it's time with COmcast but they do not run their shows to there own clocks LOL
Patrick