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Old 08-08-2009, 01:44 PM
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SageTv, WHS & HD200 Questions

Hi

Im an old sage user, version 3 or 4. I always didn't like the UI and wanted MyMovies, so always went back to MCE/VMC.

So today I was looking for something online and saw MovieWall, then WHS MyMovies xml to Sage, thenHD200 & BluRays.

I just finished my Rackmount HTPC build this morning (and upgraded to TMT 3) and my WHS rackmount build Thursday.

So some questions. I've looked around the forum, but no definitive answers.

1. If I buy SageWHS and 2 HD200's, I can watch all my OTA HDTV and ripped BluRays on the HD 200 in full 1080P and Hi Hi Def Audio, correct? And dump my HTPC?

2. If so, the BluRays I have ripped in .iso, will need to be in a folder structure?

3. I can still use MyMMovies for WHS and there is a program for Sage and Media wall that will import that data after install automatically?

4. Can I watch a BluRay from the Disc tray on the WHS that isn't ripped? (or do I still need a Sage HTPC client for that?

5. If watching ripped/tray loaded BluRay on HD200, will I get all the HD audio 5.1/7.1 on a 1.3 pass thru from receiver?

6. I've got the following for tuners: HDHR, Fusion5 USB, Fusion 5 Lite PCI, ATI HD Wonder, Theater Pro 650 Dual pciE and Theater Pro 550 pcie. They should all work with SageWHS, correct?

7. Will the HD200 let me used MovieWall, SageMC, etc locally?

8. Does Sage till require a lot of maintenance and updates, like it use to, or just the initial setup?

9. My client is windows 7 64bit, thats okay isn't it?

Lots of questions, Thanks for your time!

Jeff

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Old 08-08-2009, 02:36 PM
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1) No. Full 1080P-yes. Hi Def audio-no. You'll need the DD 5.1 track or DTS optical out pass thru to your receiver. The HD200 is NOT HDMI 1.3. It is only HDMI 1.2.
2) HD200 supports BluRay folder structure. WinRAR or 7_zip extract your .iso to folder structure.
3) BMT (a Sage plugin) will import your MyMovie xml export.
4) Share out the DVD player and also use AnyDVD.
5) No. Either DD 5.1 or DTS pass thru to your receiver.
6) Double check the web site system requirements. For the most part-yes.
7) Yes. Almost all the plugins, STVs and themes will work on the HD200. (Some plugins based on Windows dlls may not.)
8) Not sure what you mean. If you don't participate in the public betas it usually months between production releases. Some betas may correct issues so you may have install them, but you run setup over your existing setup and you're basically done.
9) As a SageTV client. No issues. As your Sage server-you're a little ahead of the curve and may see issues especially with your lineup of tuners. For stability stick to a released OS. I figure yo would go with WHS for your server. Just purchase SageTV Media Center for Windows. That license works with the SageTV add-in for WHS.

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Old 08-08-2009, 02:48 PM
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1) No. Full 1080P-yes. Hi Def audio-no. You'll need the DD 5.1 track or DTS optical out pass thru to your receiver. The HD200 is NOT HDMI 1.3. It is only HDMI 1.2.
2) HD200 supports BluRay folder structure. WinRAR or 7_zip extract your .iso to folder structure.
3) BMT (a Sage plugin) will import your MyMovie xml export.
4) Share out the DVD player and also use AnyDVD.
5) No. Either DD 5.1 or DTS pass thru to your receiver.
6) Double check the web site system requirements. For the most part-yes.
7) Yes. Almost all the plugins, STVs and themes will work on the HD200. (Some plugins based on Windows dlls may not.)
8) Not sure what you mean. If you don't participate in the public betas it usually months between production releases. Some betas may correct issues so you may have install them, but you run setup over your existing setup and you're basically done.
9) As a SageTV client. No issues. As your Sage server-you're a little ahead of the curve and may see issues especially with your lineup of tuners. For stability stick to a released OS. I figure yo would go with WHS for your server. Just purchase SageTV Media Center for Windows. That license works with the SageTV add-in for WHS.

Gerry
You da man, thanks!

That answers it all

A HD200 for the bedroom, living and a client for the Media Room(gots to have the HD audio!)

Thanks a lot

Jeff
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:56 AM
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MyMovies automatically saves jpg and properties files on my WHS/SageTV server setup. It was as simple as clicking the appropriate checkbox.

HD200 plays all Audio and Video on my setup without complaint.

Server is WHS with SageTV for WHS -->Ethernet--> HD200 -->HDMI--> Denon 3808 -->HDMI--> 73 inch Television
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:05 AM
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Most answers on this board I think are a little miss leading...for example

HD-200 does not support DECODE of Hi-Def audio...but WILL pass-thru Hi-Def audio to a receiver that can decode.

If you connect the HDMI output of HD-200 to a Denon which will decode the audio for example, then connect the output of the Denon to your HDTV monitor everything should work as expected, at least it does for me.

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Old 08-18-2009, 09:21 AM
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HD-200 does not support DECODE of Hi-Def audio...but WILL pass-thru Hi-Def audio to a receiver that can decode.
Unfortunately it doesn't. It will extract the core DD/DTS from an HD audio stream, but it will not pass the full HBR bitstream. HDMI 1.3 is required for that and neither extender is HDMI 1.3.

So yes it will play a TrueHD or DTS-HD (MA) track, and you will get audio, but you won't get the full TrueHD or DTS-HD (MA), you'll be getting the legacy DD/DTS core that is part of those.
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:56 PM
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Unfortunately it doesn't. It will extract the core DD/DTS from an HD audio stream, but it will not pass the full HBR bitstream. HDMI 1.3 is required for that and neither extender is HDMI 1.3.

So yes it will play a TrueHD or DTS-HD (MA) track, and you will get audio, but you won't get the full TrueHD or DTS-HD (MA), you'll be getting the legacy DD/DTS core that is part of those.
Thanks to both of you. For the Media Room, just means I still need ny HTPC, but for the other locations in the house sounds like the HD200 will do the trick!

Jeff
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:14 AM
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Ahhhh, legacy DD/DTS, guess I was not paying attention.
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