Are we ever going to get rid of the "pause"? YES WE DID!

[brainbone]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Unfortunately for you, such functionality is basically useless outside Europe.

Well, there is some limited FTA in the US if you scan the skys, or if you don't care about the DMCA and have hours upon hours of free time to keep DVB configuration for Dish Network going (you can use your dish network subscription card to only recive that channels you pay for directly on a DVB card, so I don't think there is any moral issue here -- but I think that this still violates the DMCA. I tried it for a bit, but it was too much work to keep up and running.)

[49studebaker]

Off topic:

Originally Posted by brainbone

Well, there is some limited FTA in the US if you scan the skys, or if you don't care about the DMCA and have hours upon hours of free time to keep DVB configuration for Dish Network going (you can use your dish network subscription card to only receive that channels you pay for directly on a DVB card, so I don't think there is any moral issue here -- but I think that this still violates the DMCA. I tried it for a bit, but it was too much work to keep up and running.)

Have you tried using a network encoder and dvbdream with SageTV? I am almost sure you can record multiple channels on the same transponder. You can get the network encoder plug-in here:

http://dvbn.happysat.org/viewtopic.p...dacfff50c826a6

On topic:

If version 7 is a paid upgrade I for one will not upgrade unless they fix this problem. If enough people refused to upgrade they would have to fix this problem. A new UI would be nice but its possible to design a custom UI with Studio. I think long term most people are going to get bored with the new UI just like they are bored with the current UI. It would be a short term fix. On the other hand it is not possible for anyone to eliminate the pause. Fixing the pause would be a long term fix. Just my opinion.

[jsin]

This morning I had the SageTV turned on to the Morning News while I was getting ready for work. I didn't hear any sound from the TV, so I immediately thought "crap, something's wrong with SageTV", and I looked at the TV and the screen was frozen. Then I'm thinking maybe the cable signal went out. Then the picture and sound came back and I realized it was the top of the hour and it was just another "pause". Whole thing lasted probably a second, maybe two.


If some one told me that I can get SageTV to not pause any longer for $100, I'd've gladly paid right there and then.

Just my 2 cents.

[camus]

My vote was no, my reason being, and I guess it would be the same for most that voted no, is that I just do not watch live TV anymore.

The exception being if I was watching a sporting event. In that case I would allow a extended receording time if it was a game I wanted to watch. I have witnessed the "pause" watching other games, but really it is a non-issue for me, at least that file is done, com detection can quit running on it etc.

Really though, how many shows are running past there allloted time slot? If you are schedulling them to record anyway can't you just add a minute or two so you don't "miss" whatever happens at the end?

[trini0]

This evening, my gf came over, and we're watching "Live TV".
At the top of the hour, and we experienced the pause.
She raised her hands in disgust during the pause.
Nuff said..

[camus]

Originally Posted by trini0

This evening, my gf came over, and we're watching "Live TV".
At the top of the hour, and we experienced the pause.
She raised her hands in disgust during the pause.
Nuff said..

Get her over to watch Grey's Anatomy or whatever "chick show" is popular com free and I bet she has second thoughts.

Nuff said.

[camus]

Two questions, the pause should only occur between shows, or if the passes the alloted time. So if it is between shows it is it would be during commercial time correct? Is a pause during the latest tide commercial an issue?

[Alakar]

I voted "Yes". The pause was annoying under Windows XP: under Windows 7 RC it's just horrible. 50% of the time when the pause comes, Sage loses tuning. I have to put it into stand-by to get it to re-tune the channel. A few times I have gotten disc encoding errors when the pause occurs. In those cases I have to completely restart Sage. I understand that the RC is not the final release, but the issues only occur with the pause.

[jsin]

Originally Posted by camus

Two questions, the pause should only occur between shows, or if the passes the alloted time. So if it is between shows it is it would be during commercial time correct? Is a pause during the latest tide commercial an issue?

Pause occurs whenever the Guide says the old show ends and the new show begins. What is actually being shown is irrelevant.

What I don't like isn't the pause at any particular place, just that the pause occurs at all and then I (and possibly other people watching with me) think "oh s**t, it's broken again". (Hmm. I wonder if that says something about my setup of SageTV?)

I understand that it's a matter of personal preference. Today, I watch live TV and I prefer to not have the pause. If tomorrow, I stop watching live TV, then I'd probably don't care either.

[toricred]

It might also mean that you don't have confidence that your Sage is stable. Mine's been almost entirely stable for 2-3 years. I probably even notice if I watched live tv because I trust my setup. If the pause was over a couple of minutes then I'd be concerned that the power to my server died.

[bunch92]

This evening, my gf came over, and we're watching "Live TV".
At the top of the hour, and we experienced the pause.
She spat at me in disgust during the pause.
I spat back at her 10 minutes later during the next pause.
We carried on like this all evening and it occurred 106 times
nuff said

[Stu Gare]

I found the pause between programme changes became worse after I fitted a new HDD and formatted it to 64k block sizes (as recommended). - I suffered no pauses on any of the 4 SageMC clients prior to the new Hard Disk going in.

I've since also noticed that my SATA HDD where running in IDE mode and switching them back to AHCI mode improved the pauses between programmes.

May be worth trying to reformat to a smaller block size.

[MeInMaui]

Originally Posted by bunch92

This evening, my gf came over, and we're watching "Live TV".
At the top of the hour, and we experienced the pause.
She spat at me in disgust during the pause.
I spat back at her 10 minutes later during the next pause.
We carried on like this all evening and it occurred 106 times
nuff said

And when you got up, you realized you were sitting on the remote?

[doc]

Originally Posted by bunch92

This evening, my gf came over, and we're watching "Live TV".
At the top of the hour, and we experienced the pause.
She spat at me in disgust during the pause.
I spat back at her 10 minutes later during the next pause.
We carried on like this all evening and it occurred 106 times
nuff said

Awwww .....young love....

I remember swapping spit with my girlfriends when I was a teenager

If we'd had comskip back then I wouldn't have got into half as much trouble......

[mpogr]

Originally Posted by 3dOptics

Off topic:



Have you tried using a network encoder and dvbdream with SageTV? I am almost sure you can record multiple channels on the same transponder. You can get the network encoder plug-in here:

http://dvbn.happysat.org/viewtopic.p...dacfff50c826a6

You can also try DVB Enhancer for SageTV. It for sure can record multiple channels on a single transponder.

[mistergq]

I could be wrong, but before i ditched btv, I thought it had the same problem. Initially, live tv would be in a buffer file, but I thought one of the last versions of BTV was putting the Live TV file into a video file with the tv show name the same as STV is now doing.

I asked my Wife if its annoying and she said no. I said there was a 7 page thread on it, and she rolled her eyes.

For the record, we do watch live tv, and not just for sporting events. The pause is less than 2 seconds, I would say less than 1 second. My system is set up for 4 turners of OTA and 2 turners for HD FIOS channels from HD PVR. I do not have any additional delay for the HD PVR because 99% of what is recorded from FIOS is HD, so we do not have a video reset option.

[AusJohn]

The pausing when retuning of a channel occurs is the major annoyance with using SageTv to watch live Digital Tv received via aerial. I live in a regional area with no broadband internet service so I have no options except TV via aerial recedption.

Have not been able to stop the pause by selecting no to always retune channel in the setup menu when watching programs on the same channel.

Is there anyway of reducing the time SageTv takes to change channels.

I have tried GBPVR , Mediaportal and DNTV Live software all of these do not experience the pausing problem but they do suffer in some other areas.
I found SageTv far superior as it worked first time with my 3 tuner cards and my remotes were easy to get working I have had beta issues, release 6.6.2 seems stable so far.

I stumbled across this poll and I think most users are not aware of the poll.
If SageTv emailed and polled all there customers then YES would be the answer.

Considering SageTv is a purchased product it is simple not acceptable for a
major annoyance to be simply ignored if other programmers can over come a tuning issue then its about time SageTv bites the bullet and produces the ultimate product

Thanks

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Unfortunately for you, such functionality is basically useless outside Europe.

Doesn't QAM also put multiple streams on a single channel? Is DVB doing soemthing different than QAM?

[stanger89]

It can, but so little QAM is unencrypted it doesn't make much difference. You're usually lucky to get 1 subchannel unencrypted. And if you're talking HD AFAIK there's usually only two streams to start with.

[Fuzzy]

well, to be honest, ATSC also puts multiple streams on a channel. It's jsut the upper limit on bacdwidth of 19.5Mbps limits it's usefullness. There are quite a few multicast streams in the Los Angeles market, though most are groupings of SD foreign language channels (and each a different language, so the need to record more than one would me rare).