SageTV Community  

Go Back   SageTV Community > Hardware Support > Hardware Support
Forum Rules FAQs Community Downloads Today's Posts Search

Notices

Hardware Support Discussions related to using various hardware setups with SageTV products. Anything relating to capture cards, remotes, infrared receivers/transmitters, system compatibility or other hardware related problems or suggestions should be posted here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21  
Old 04-27-2009, 11:26 AM
JerryB JerryB is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by Opus4 View Post
For those who could, are you still having lockup issues with your HD-PVR where you have to power cycle it?
- Andy
Add me to the list of individuals who haven't had a single problem with the HD-PVR since installing the 1.5.6 beta driver.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-27-2009, 12:40 PM
spacecadet spacecadet is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lexington, MA
Posts: 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Opus4 View Post
I see that some people weren't able to use these drivers, but for those who could, are you still having lockup issues with your HD-PVR where you have to power cycle it?
I've had more problems with this driver than with the previous version (1.5.3.0). I've had a couple of instances of "stop motion video" problem (where the audio is fine, but the video is choppy) and one case of it locking up. But this evidence is all anecdotal, so it could be the new driver or it could be something else completely.

I think I've had 1.5.6 installed for about 2 weeks now.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-27-2009, 01:25 PM
Taddeusz Taddeusz is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Yukon, OK
Posts: 3,919
I just installed this driver today. I'm going to keep my STB set to output PCM so I'll always get AC3 stereo audio. I've noticed that as far as Placeshifter is concerned that SageTV works better with AC3 audio vs AAC audio in HD-PVR recordings. We'll see how this works.

I suspect the problems people are having with the HD-PVR locking up are due to it's inability to gracefully handle the AC3 stream breaking.

For now I'm going to stay away from AC3 pass-through unless I hear that its working without locking up.
__________________
Server: i5 8400, ASUS Prime H370M-Plus/CSM, 16GB RAM, 15TB drive array + 500GB cache, 2 HDHR's, SageTV 9, unRAID 6.6.3
Client 1: HD300 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia 65" 1080p LCD and optical SPDIF to a Sony Receiver
Client 2: HD200 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 1080p LCD
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 04-27-2009, 01:30 PM
MeInMaui's Avatar
MeInMaui MeInMaui is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Maui. HI
Posts: 4,203
I just finally got around to updating to the 1.5.6 drivers last night. All went smoothly and seemed to work fine in live TV tests with spdif audio input after a reboot. In fact everything seemed to respond a bit quicker after the update, though it could be my imagination. I'll post here if any lockups/problems crop up.

Aloha,
Mike
__________________
"Everything doesn't exist. I'm thirsty." ...later... "No, it's real!!! I'm full."
- Nikolaus (4yrs old)
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-27-2009, 01:35 PM
gplasky's Avatar
gplasky gplasky is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Howell, MI
Posts: 9,203
I updated to the new drivers immediately after they were avaialble. I do not have any issues and I am using SPDIF for 5.1 AC3 sound for my recordings. It took all of abo9ut 5 minutes to run the update and reboot the server. This is on a WHS with a hd100, hd200 and various PC clients.

Gerry
__________________
Big Gerr
_______
Server - WHS 2011: Sage 7.1.9 - 1 x HD Prime and 2 x HDHomeRun - Intel Atom D525 1.6 GHz, Acer Easystore, RAM 4 GB, 4 x 2TB hotswap drives, 1 x 2TB USB ext Clients: 2 x PC Clients, 1 x HD300, 2 x HD-200, 1 x HD-100 DEV Client: Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit - AMD 64 x2 6000+, Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H MB, RAM 4GB, HD OS:500GB, DATA:1 x 500GB, Pace RGN STB.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-27-2009, 08:46 PM
TechJunkie TechJunkie is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: USA, Southern California
Posts: 82
I also updated the drivers as soon as they came out becouse of the fix with FIOS STB. The AC3 worked finally with FIOS and I was very happy. But then my HD-PVR had to be restarted once a day. I switched back to the analog audio and the HD-PVR has not failed since. For now I am sruck with stereo. No surround sound for me.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-28-2009, 08:03 AM
spacecadet spacecadet is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lexington, MA
Posts: 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by TechJunkie View Post
I also updated the drivers as soon as they came out becouse of the fix with FIOS STB. The AC3 worked finally with FIOS and I was very happy. But then my HD-PVR had to be restarted once a day. I switched back to the analog audio and the HD-PVR has not failed since. For now I am sruck with stereo. No surround sound for me.
Yeah, I'm not quite rebooting once a day, but I am thinking of going back to the analog audio to see if my intermittent problems go away (one lock-up and a couple instances of stop motion video). I don't watch movie channels via the HD-PVR, so I'm not sure the AC3 audio is buying me all that much, anyway (listening to analog with PLII had always seemed pretty good to me).
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 04-28-2009, 08:13 AM
Taddeusz Taddeusz is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Yukon, OK
Posts: 3,919
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacecadet View Post
Yeah, I'm not quite rebooting once a day, but I am thinking of going back to the analog audio to see if my intermittent problems go away (one lock-up and a couple instances of stop motion video). I don't watch movie channels via the HD-PVR, so I'm not sure the AC3 audio is buying me all that much, anyway (listening to analog with PLII had always seemed pretty good to me).
In my experience you don't have to go all the way to analog audio to keep the HD-PVR from locking up. Simply setting your STB to output stereo PCM instead of AC3 should have the same effect.

I've always used the SPDIF input and I've only ever had problems when I set my STB to output AC3. It works great when my STB is set to output PCM.
__________________
Server: i5 8400, ASUS Prime H370M-Plus/CSM, 16GB RAM, 15TB drive array + 500GB cache, 2 HDHR's, SageTV 9, unRAID 6.6.3
Client 1: HD300 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia 65" 1080p LCD and optical SPDIF to a Sony Receiver
Client 2: HD200 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 1080p LCD
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 04-28-2009, 12:26 PM
spacecadet spacecadet is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lexington, MA
Posts: 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taddeusz View Post
In my experience you don't have to go all the way to analog audio to keep the HD-PVR from locking up. Simply setting your STB to output stereo PCM instead of AC3 should have the same effect.

I've always used the SPDIF input and I've only ever had problems when I set my STB to output AC3. It works great when my STB is set to output PCM.
I don't think the Verizon (moto) boxes provide the ability to configure this. But I may have overlooked it.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 04-28-2009, 01:23 PM
TechJunkie TechJunkie is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: USA, Southern California
Posts: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taddeusz View Post
In my experience you don't have to go all the way to analog audio to keep the HD-PVR from locking up. Simply setting your STB to output stereo PCM instead of AC3 should have the same effect.

I've always used the SPDIF input and I've only ever had problems when I set my STB to output AC3. It works great when my STB is set to output PCM.
I found that switching cables and changing the settings in SageTV is more simple then switching settings on my Verizon STB since I my STB are not near a TV or Monitor.
Thank you for the info and I will keep this in mind the next time I change the configuration around.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 04-28-2009, 01:34 PM
Taddeusz Taddeusz is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Yukon, OK
Posts: 3,919
Quote:
Originally Posted by TechJunkie View Post
I found that switching cables and changing the settings in SageTV is more simple then switching settings on my Verizon STB since I my STB are not near a TV or Monitor.
Thank you for the info and I will keep this in mind the next time I change the configuration around.
Yea, changing the configuration on the STB can be a pain. Changing the audio settings while SageTV is viewing the HD-PVR can cause it to lock.

After reading about everything on here and from my own experience I'm convinced that much of the current issue with the HD-PVR is that it can't handle breaks in the AC3 stream very well. And that even breaks in the AC3 stream going between network to local commercials and back can cause problems. It seems it's just a roll of the dice away from whether the HD-PVR decides to lock up or not.

Since I switched my STB to stereo PCM the ONLY issues I've had are with my STB and not with the HD-PVR. I actually had a problem last night just as I was about to test out the 1.5.6 driver when I got home. And the STB was in an odd state. Audio was playing but no video. I pulled the power plug on the STB and let it reset and it began working fine. Really weird but at least its not my HD-PVR causing the problem.
__________________
Server: i5 8400, ASUS Prime H370M-Plus/CSM, 16GB RAM, 15TB drive array + 500GB cache, 2 HDHR's, SageTV 9, unRAID 6.6.3
Client 1: HD300 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia 65" 1080p LCD and optical SPDIF to a Sony Receiver
Client 2: HD200 (latest FW), HDMI to an Insignia NS-LCD42HD-09 1080p LCD
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04-28-2009, 10:48 PM
trini0's Avatar
trini0 trini0 is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 331
Let me give it a try...
__________________
Server: ASUS P5BV-C/4L, Celeron E1600, 2GB Ram, Windows 7, 30GB OS/512GB (iSCSI) TV/DVD Storage, SageTV 7.1.9, Java 1.6.0_20, Paterson TV Translator 1.0.19.0
Client(1): SageTV STX-HD100 f/w:20100212 connected to an Onkyo SR-606 and Samsung LN46A650 via HDMI
Client(2): HP Pavilion dv5z-1200 Entertainment Notebook running Windows 7 and SageTV Client 7.1.9
Source(1): DirecTV H21, HD-PVR (E1) driver 1.5.7
Source(2): HDHomeRun, Winegard GS-2200
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-29-2009, 07:16 AM
babgvant babgvant is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,834
Quote:
Originally Posted by babgvant View Post
Switched back to digital audio input on Friday, which always eventually caused a problem, so far so good.
locked up last night, so I'm back on analog inputs.
__________________
babgvant.com | @babgvant | Missing Remote
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-29-2009, 12:24 PM
michelkenny michelkenny is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 233
I set up 2 HD-PVRs (rev E1) a week or two ago with the 1.5.6 drivers from the start. I only have analog audio connected. I've had 2-3 problems with one unit (the same one as far as I can tell). I'm not sure if it is the same "lockup" as everyone else experiences... what I get is a black screen with "no signal" in SageTV, along with a "capture error" when the recordings starts. The file size stays at 0 bytes. Turning the HD-PVR off and on fixes the problem for a little bit then it happens again. I'm not sure if it's the HD-PVR locking up, or my GF pressing a ton of buttons during live TV and breaking something... I'm still investigating... I have debugging turned on in Sage. Is there any hints that I can find out what the problem is?
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 04-30-2009, 03:45 AM
trini0's Avatar
trini0 trini0 is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 331
Quote:
Originally Posted by trini0 View Post
Let me give it a try...
I'm still having my random problems.
I dont think there is anything wrong with my unit.
Hopefully Sage tech could figure something out...
__________________
Server: ASUS P5BV-C/4L, Celeron E1600, 2GB Ram, Windows 7, 30GB OS/512GB (iSCSI) TV/DVD Storage, SageTV 7.1.9, Java 1.6.0_20, Paterson TV Translator 1.0.19.0
Client(1): SageTV STX-HD100 f/w:20100212 connected to an Onkyo SR-606 and Samsung LN46A650 via HDMI
Client(2): HP Pavilion dv5z-1200 Entertainment Notebook running Windows 7 and SageTV Client 7.1.9
Source(1): DirecTV H21, HD-PVR (E1) driver 1.5.7
Source(2): HDHomeRun, Winegard GS-2200
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-02-2009, 08:27 AM
Brent Brent is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: KC, Missouri
Posts: 3,695
I'm having trouble with SageTV using this HD-PVR 1.5.6 driver.

Here's the steps I went through to try it out:
  • Downloaded & unzipped latest Hauppauge beta 1.5.6 driver
  • Shut down SageTV entirely including service
  • Ran “hcwdriverinstall.exe”
  • Rebooted computer
  • Ran Total Media Extreme to test playback of HD-PVR with SPDIF - everything worked perfectly
  • Shut down TME
  • Installed default STV without any plugins for testing purposes
  • Ran SageTV and attempted to view LiveTV on one of the HD-PVR channels
Result when trying to tune was this error message popped up
Quote:
Capture, ERROR (-4,0x8007001f): There was an problem using the capture device. Please be sure you have the latest drivers installed for your capture device, and that they are installed correctly.
Then on the playback window it said "No Signal" and a blue screen

Here's a clip of the relevant log if its useful to anyone or if anyone has a suggestion:

Code:
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.941 Change in record to another show. Entering device record mode. - NOW
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.941 Seeker.startRecord(Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device FA[A[5160392,0,"SIGN OFF",0@0502.08:55,5256000]], currTime=Sat 5/2 9:15:00.937) currRecord=null switch=false
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.941 Setting up MMC video for recording new show & tuning channel conn=Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device Component+SPDIF
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.942 Using quality setting "Great-H.264" for recording
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.942 Seeker resetting the encoder because it'll pass the max duration
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.942 MediaFile startSegment enc=Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device Great-H.264 MediaFile[id=5160392 FA[A[5160392,0,"SIGN OFF",0@0502.08:55,5256000]] host=mediaserver encodedBy=Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device Component+SPDIF format=MPEG2-TS 0:00:00 0 kbps [] \\MEDIASERVER\SageShows\HauppaugeHDPVRCaptureDeviceComponentSPDIF-0.mpgbuf, Seg0[Sat 5/2 9:12:09.027-Sat 5/2 9:12:21.716]]
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.959 Seeker channel string=1452
Sat 5/2 9:15:00.960 Playing IR tune command of 1452
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 setEncodingProperties0 968673928 Great-H.264
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property audiooutputmode to 0
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property audiocrc to 0
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property gopsize to 15
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property videobitrate to 7600000
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property inversetelecine to 0
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property closedgop to 0
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property vbr to 0
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property outputstreamtype to 1
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property width to 720
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property height to 480
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.927 Set encoding property audiobitrate to 384
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 Set encoding property audiosampling to 48000
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 Set encoding property disablefilter to 1
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 Set encoding property medianfilter to 3
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 Set encoding property fps to 30
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 Set encoding property ipb to 0
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 Set encoding property deinterlace to 0
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 Set encoding property aspectratio to 1
Sat 5/2 9:15:03.928 setupEncoding0 called for 968673928 'Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device-0' (ver 1.0)
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.040 setupEncoding0 Trace1 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.041 setupEncoding0 Trace2 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.041 setupEncoding0 Trace3 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.048 Using encoder filter (0)
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.048 setupEncoding0 Trace4 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.049 setupEncoding0 Trace5 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.050 setupEncoding0 Trace6 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.050 is not ATI encoder.
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.050 setupEncoding0 Trace6-1 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.050 setupEncoding0 Trace7 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.050 Got VideoEncoder interface
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.066 Signal detected!
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.081 Detected capture input resolution lines=1080
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.097 setupEncoding0 Trace7-2
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.097 setupEncoding0 Trace7-3
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.097 setupEncoding0 Trace8 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.097 setupEncoding0 Trace9 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.098 setupEncoding0 Trace10 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.098 Encoding to file \\MEDIASERVER\SageShows\HauppaugeHDPVRCaptureDeviceComponentSPDIF-0.mpgbuf
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.099 setupEncoding0 Trace27 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.099 setupEncoding0 Trace28 
Sat 5/2 9:15:04.099 startEncoding0 called for 'Hauppauge HD PVR Capture Device-0'
Sat 5/2 9:15:09.119 Failed: startEncoding0 Run return code:8007001f  
Sat 5/2 9:15:09.119 Built:sage.EncodingException: ERROR (-4,0x8007001f): There was an problem using the capture device. Please be sure you have the latest drivers installed for your capture device, and that they are installed correctly.
Sat 5/2 9:15:09.119 Sending hook to client for MediaPlayerError args=[Capture, ERROR (-4,0x8007001f): There was an problem using the capture device. Please be sure you have the latest drivers installed for your capture device, and that they are installed correctly.]
Sat 5/2 9:15:09.195 Playing IR tune command of 1452
I'm submitting this to SageTV support as well of course, but wanted to share with others here to see if anyone had any suggestions. I think it is important to note that this seems to be a problem with SageTV and not the HD-PVR. I'm not experiencing lockups or anything and it works just fine using TME - just doesn't work with SageTV
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-02-2009, 10:07 AM
HelenWeathers's Avatar
HelenWeathers HelenWeathers is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 1,321
Brent, had nothing but grief with this driver install. It killed even my OTA HDTV tuners.

I ended up saveing my wiz.bin, uninstalled Sage, deleted the SageTV folder and did a a fresh install of 6.5.14 beta. Did all the first time setup config (language, weather zip etc).

Then I set up one of the HD-PVRs as a source and got it to work (it seemed to take a long time to pick up a signal). Did my channel lineup anew. Tested that. That worked so added second HD-PVR and that worked. Added my three OTA tuners and setup channel lineup. Exited Sage. Copied my wiz.bin into the new SageTV\SageTV folder and everything has been working fine since then.

I do notice that when I watch live TV I get the NO Signal message on the HD-PVR channels for a few seconds, but then it clears and the video/audio comes up.

The only maybe pertinent thing I can think of here is that the fresh install set up a new properties file.
__________________
Server: SageTV 9, Win10/32, Intel DP55KG Mb, Intel QC i5 2.66GHz , 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM, 2 Hauppauge 2255s for 4 OTA ATSC tuners, HDHRPrime w Comcast, 3 STP-HD300s 20101007-0 firmware, nVidia Shield. Java v7u55. Plugins:SD EPG, OpenDCT
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-02-2009, 10:24 AM
Brent Brent is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: KC, Missouri
Posts: 3,695
Thanks for the update. That doesn't sound too promising. I think I'll hold off before I change anything and see what SageTV support wants me to do.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-02-2009, 11:17 AM
LehighBri LehighBri is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 694
Guys - best thing I can suggest rather than ranting in this thread is to contact Hauppauge support. As you may have seen, I had a horrible experience with my HVR-2250 recording 2 SD channels at once. I contacted Hauppauge support, they sent me a variety of "prerelease" drivers to test out, until they finally fixed the issue. I recommend you do the same... they are quite responsive.

Use the site below to submit your issue to Hauppauge:
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/suppor...t_contact.html
__________________
Server: Sage 7.1.9 beta; Dell Inspiron 530; Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (UAC turned off); 2TB Internal SATA (TV Recordings)
Storage: Synology DiskStation DS411+, RAID 5, 5x 2TB SATA for (DVDs/Music/Other Videos)
Tuners: Ceton InfiniTV w/ Verizon FIOS cablecard (using babgvant's SageDCT plugin)
Clients: 1x STP-HD300; 1x Acer Aspire Revo 3610 (Atom/Ion) w/ SageTV client (Win 7, EVR, FSE on)
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-02-2009, 11:21 AM
bcjenkins bcjenkins is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,764
For the record, this firmware update is working fine for Linux drivers.

B
__________________
Running SageTV on unRAID via Docker
Tuning handled by HDHR3-6CC-3X2 using OpenDCT
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vista wants to install a new driver for my Hauppauge PVR-150 wayner Hardware Support 1 11-08-2008 06:04 AM
when the heck is the beta hdpvr driver due? killervette Hardware Support 1 09-11-2008 06:54 PM
Hauppauge PVR-250 Driver version question Steerpike Hardware Support 2 07-19-2007 11:20 PM
Best driver for Hauppauge 350 metropole Hardware Support 1 07-01-2006 09:27 AM
Hauppauge PVR-250 driver and/or decoder freezes computer truittj Hardware Support 10 02-08-2005 09:16 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2003-2005 SageTV, LLC. All rights reserved.