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Old 04-02-2009, 12:37 PM
keodark keodark is offline
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Help with correct codecs, etc

Hi All,

I'm still trying to get my trial SageTV set up well enough to convince my wife to drop $150/mo Cable TV, and pay the $80 for Sage... however, I keep running into problems. I thought maybe if someone could step me through which codecs I should be using, I might be able to avoid some issues, like the following from the latest problem (black video but good audio on all channels until restart of --client--):

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Thu 4/2 7:03:18.324 DShowPlayer setVideoRendererFilter0({CD8743A1-3736-11D0-9E69-00C04FD7C15B}) called
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.328 DShowPlayer setVideoDecoderFilter0(SageTV MPEG Video Decoder) called
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.328 Using DXVA Enabled SageTV MPEG-2 Video Decoder
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.329 WIN32 FAILURE HR=0x80004005 FILE=.\PlaybackGraph.cpp LINE=103
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.329 VideoDecoder DXVA enabled 1
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.329 VideoDecoder Postprocess 0
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.330 VideoDecoder ShowErrorFrames 1
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.330 VideoDecoder EMC_Deinterlace 4
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.330 WIN32 FAILURE HR=0x80004005 FILE=.\PlaybackGraph.cpp LINE=144
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.330 DShowPlayer setAudioDecoderFilter0(SageTV MPEG Audio Decoder) called
Thu 4/2 7:03:18.331 DShowPlayer setTimeshift=1 buffer=0
When I read this, it occurred to me that maybe I should seek advice on which codecs to install/upgrade. I'm mostly using stock everything - latest video card drivers, latest ATI HDMI audio driver...

So here's an exhaustive summary of my setup and my settings. I would be very appreciative of any advice for where I might be going wrong in the codecs & decoders department:

I'm recording and watching HD OTA programming (no cable). Signal strength on all channels is at least 80%, most of them are flawless.

- HDHomeRun x1 on a wired network
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 5050e 2.6GHz cpu
- Gigabyte GA-MA78GM motherboard with onboard audio (RealTek), onboard video disabled
- Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 512MB GDDR4 video card, using HDMI out (using ATI HDMI audio driver so the onboard sound output goes to the tv on the vidcard's HDMI out)
- 2gb DDR2-800 sdram
- 1TB HD, two partitions (one OS & apps, one for recordings)
- No heat problems

Windows XP Pro, clean install
SageTV running as a Service. comskip mod installed. No placeshifters, extenders, or networked clients.

Sage settings:
- Quality: DVD Standard Play (mpeg2 max was causing glitches in recorded video)
- Video Renderer: VMR9
- MPEG2 Video Decoder Filter: SageTV Video Decoder Filter
- Use DXVA? Yes
- Mpeg4 playback: DirectShow
- DScaler: Disabled
- Audio Renderer: Default
- MPEG2 Audio Decoder Filter: SageTV MPEG Audio Decoder
- No DVD. (no dvd drive)
- 3d Acceleration on menus (adv setup): Disabled
- Enable MPEG4 Timeshifting: Yes
- Always Tune Channel: Yes

I do not have any specific DVD player software installed (no dvd drive). I have VLC installed, WMP11, DivX Player.

Here are my questions:
- Should I consider using the ATI mpeg decoders? Should I install 3rd party ones?
- How can I be sure that my video card is doing the post-processing, deinterlacing, and so forth to take as much load off of my low-wattage CPU as possible?
- Should I consider other Renderers? I switched from Overlay to VMR9 when I had my first video playback issues...
- Should I install any codecs? ffdshow? cyberlink? It's possible that I'm missing files that other users take for granted...

Thanks!
-Keo
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:56 PM
SWKerr SWKerr is offline
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I use the ATI 3200 from a 789G motherboard which should be a rough equivalent to your setup. I assume that we are just talking about HD s and that analog would not be important. (I don't do analog anymore). These comments are for XP but I have found Vista to be just about the same. EVR on Vista looks good out of the box but Overlay is still just about perfect for me.

I have found my best HD mpeg-2 playback with the Cyberlink 7 codec. (Don't have version 8) The nVidia codec is also not bad but I end up with a small gray bar at the bottom of the screen. (Has anyone else seen this?) The ATI codecs suck and I have never got the Sage codec to work quire right. the ArcSoft codec is great for h.264 files (BluRay, HD-PVR) but it sucks for MPEG-2 files.

I use Overlay for everything at this point. If I use VMR9 I get tearing. I have found using Full Screen exclusive mode will fix this in VMR9 but I have to restart Sage every time I go out of Sage to watch an online show. (Netflix, Hulu etc., Pain in Butt)

h.264 is different codecs different opinion but post if you want advice on those as well.

Last edited by SWKerr; 04-02-2009 at 09:08 PM.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:15 PM
keodark keodark is offline
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I'll try out Cyberlink, thanks.

I guess my frustration stems from the fact that I don't know enough about codecs and decoders to know which ones to use, and the default settings for Sage are giving me problems. This either means that the codecs/decoders/settings I have are causing instability, or Sage itself has bugs that are causing my problems. I'd like to think it's the former.

-Keo
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