SageTV Community  

Go Back   SageTV Community > General Discussion > The SageTV Community
Forum Rules FAQs Community Downloads Today's Posts Search

Notices

The SageTV Community Here's the place to discuss what's worth recording, HTPC deals at retail stores, events happening outside of your home theater, and pretty much anything else you'd like. (No For-Sale posts)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-21-2009, 03:41 PM
pjpjpjpj pjpjpjpj is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,164
Network Cable Splitter... opinions?

I just saw a "network cable splitter" advertised online. I've never seen one before (never really looked). It looks just like you would expect - little plastic box, one CAT5e female jack on one side, two on the other side. I would assume that it would work great except obviously be limited by the throughput of the single cable (on the "single side") and any downstream devices/ports, right? Meaning, two devices on the "split side" could be doing two separate things, as long as the combined bandwidth needed didn't exceed the capacity of the cable and devices on the "single side"?

Has anyone had experience with one of these gadgets?

I am soon going to be installing a new HD200 in another second floor room (currently have an HD100 on my master bedroom TV). I will never be using both of these extenders simultaneously. I was thinking that, rather than fishing yet another 100-foot CAT5e from upstairs through the long, windy path (don't ask) to get to my router/hub, I could just take the cable running to my current extender, put on the splitter, and then run to the current and new extenders, using some much-shorter network cables that I already have. This would save me a bit of money and a LOT of time and effort.

And honestly, since this is a single run (from the router out to the splitter, then to two extenders), and two HD streams can easily pass through a CAT5e bandwidth-wise, I actually should be able to watch both simultaneously if I wanted to... right?
__________________
Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network
Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such...
Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM.
Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic).
Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-21-2009, 03:48 PM
S_M_E S_M_E is offline
Sage Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 908
I'd use a switch instead. YMMV...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-21-2009, 03:54 PM
Paul H Paul H is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 250
Here's the secret: Ethernet only uses 2 of the 4 pairs of wire in CAT5x (or 6xx) cable. The splitters, you'll need two of them, connect another RJ45 connector to the unused pair on each side of the cable run. Will it work for you? . . . Let me know!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-21-2009, 06:00 PM
CollinR CollinR is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 1,305
Assuming you are using base100 and not gigabit.

The device may well be a 2 port switch though too. As was mentioned would be the right way to do it, plus you can have more ports.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-21-2009, 06:15 PM
S_M_E S_M_E is offline
Sage Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 908
If it's really cheap and powered it might be a 2 port hub but I doubt it's a switch. It should say in the advertising if it's a switch. They'd want to brag about that. If it's not powered it's not a hub nor a switch, it's a splitter and I'd avoid it.

I did a quick search:

Quote:
What they do: A pair of Network splitters will enable you to utilize a single Cat 5E cable run (which would ordinarily only handle a single 10/100 Base Ethernet connection) for two 10/100 Base Ethernet connections for two computers to connect onto the network. Please note that this will require an extra Hub/Switch or Router port and two additional patch cables.

What they Don't do: The Network Splitters will not create a new hub or router port. If you have a 4 Port router and need to get a 5th computer working than these splitters are not for you.
It's $21.00 for these, I'd just buy a switch.

Last edited by S_M_E; 01-21-2009 at 06:20 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-22-2009, 07:29 PM
pjpjpjpj pjpjpjpj is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,164
What I saw was not powered. It looked like one of those little phone line extenders/splicers - the little white plastic box with female ports on both side - except it had two ports on one side and one on the other. It was like $8, I believe.

Unfortunately, I can't seem to find it right now. I was looking for something else online at the time and saw it in an online store, but didn't bookmark it. I'll have to look again later.

A switch or hub or whatever would require power at the device. I was trying to avoid that requirement.
__________________
Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network
Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such...
Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM.
Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic).
Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-22-2009, 07:51 PM
S_M_E S_M_E is offline
Sage Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 908
This is the one I found:

http://www.lanshack.com/Network-Spli...ir-P47C56.aspx

I'd avoid it personally.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-23-2009, 06:09 AM
Polypro Polypro is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,804
It just prevents you from having to run a second cable. Could be useful in some situations, but yeah...I'd probably go for a hub or switch.

P
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-23-2009, 08:11 AM
ElGato's Avatar
ElGato ElGato is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oxford, UK
Posts: 104
Send a message via ICQ to ElGato Send a message via MSN to ElGato
Quote:
Originally Posted by S_M_E View Post
This is the one I found:

http://www.lanshack.com/Network-Spli...ir-P47C56.aspx

I'd avoid it personally.
Good find S_M_E. As the picture demonstrates, they should be deployed in pairs, so all you are really doing is making use of the previouslly unused extra wires in the cable to facilitate 2 independant connections. Still taking up 2 ports on the originating switch.

I have used them in the past to actually just split a single connection as pjpjpjpj is suggesting he wants to do, I realise now this is not the correct useage and not recommended. I eventually had issues with this, with one or both of the devices after a while failing to get a connection.

By all means use them as intended, i.e. in pairs as the diagram demonstartes, that will give you what you want without issue. Of course to do that without a patch panel will require a coupler.

Last edited by ElGato; 01-23-2009 at 08:16 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-23-2009, 02:20 PM
BitBass BitBass is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 84
The diagram on that link shows the pairs you need to split. If you can get hold of a crimp tool you can make your own splitter pretty easily and cheap too.

I've kept a pair (always have to do it in pairs) of split patch cables around for just this purpose. As others have said it won't support GigE but 100mb will work just fine over it. The in-wall wiring doesn't need to be modified. Just slap the split cable on both ends and it'll separate it.

It's not the prettiest thing but it works in a pinch and it's cheaper than a switch.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Surprise result: cable signal too high! Yooper Hardware Support 1 01-14-2009 08:56 AM
network recorders, cable firewire and bears oh my Homebuilder Hardware Support 4 01-28-2008 12:44 PM
My Home Network Setup - Think this will work? geogecko Hardware Support 3 12-06-2007 07:58 PM
Cable TV Questions mightyt Hardware Support 5 12-18-2006 01:09 AM
Tuning SD digital cable without a cable box null_pointer_us Hardware Support 16 07-19-2006 08:46 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2003-2005 SageTV, LLC. All rights reserved.