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Old 10-05-2008, 01:04 PM
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Any 780G and HD-PVR owners here?

Does anyone here have a motherboard with the nVidia 780G chipset and HD-PVR's for capture?

How well does it work? What codecs do you use for h.264?

I'm considering a new build based on the 780G and I'm curious if anyone else is using it with success.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:28 AM
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I'm curious about this too as I'm thinking of beefing up a server and building a new client. ( And quiet down HD Extender proponents, I want a Blue-ray box )

790GX motherboard experiences I'd like to hear as well.
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:04 PM
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I'm curious about this too as I'm thinking of beefing up a server and building a new client. ( And quiet down HD Extender proponents, I want a Blue-ray box )

790GX motherboard experiences I'd like to hear as well.

Okay I know this is off topic, but come on! $200 for the HD100 + $200 for component Blu-Ray player = $400 and completely silent (and both stacked on each other <= same height as desktop pc).

PC build w/ 780G chipset: $90 motherboard + $60 CPU + $30 RAM + $50 HD + $100 Blu-Ray + $100 for decent HTCP case = $430 and that's if you go Linux or pirate the OS. And this isn't silent, uses 4x the power, and you have to tweak and tweak and tweak.

I have a 780G based computer with a 4850e processor. Its a great PC don't get me wrong for just about any day to day stuff, but what little I played with it as a Sage client (wasn't why I bought it), it was a bit of pain. The Radeon 3200 video chip that the 780G is built around just doesn't have all the features that a decent Blu-Ray player has. It is barebones when it comes to blu-ray playback. The 780G chipset is probably the best (okay was, the 790GX probably beats it, but I haven't followed that int video chipset) integrated video chip on the market, but it still can't hold a candle to a basic Radeon 4XXX chip.

You are better off with a discrete video card, but now you are talking even more cash and even more power usage!
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Old 10-11-2008, 06:02 PM
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Okay I know this is off topic, but come on! $200 for the HD100
Correct - the OP is asking for feedback on the 780G with HD-PVR usage and the second post nicely asks not to have this thread turn into another annoying HD100 vs client debate (i'm paraphrasing a bit here). I understand the HD100 hype - I just don't understand why everyone that requests input into a client build needs to be dissuaded from the endeavour.

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PC build w/ 780G chipset:...=$430
Incorrect - Putting a quick list together on Newegg can be done for ~$312 with Blue-Ray and a decent looking INWIN mico-case. Although the OP didn't say anything about Blue-Ray so it can be had for ~$217 without.

Of course my post also doesn't answer the OP - sorry.

Anyone? .... 780G with HD-PVR (h.264) playback experience. Maybe the 780GX or G45 IG?
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:09 PM
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1) 780G is an AMD chipset, not Nvidia.

2) I just built myself a client PC with a gigabyte 780G mobo, an AMD X2 BE-2400 and 2 GB DDR2-800. Installed Vista Ultimate on it, then installed Sage Client and the appropriate codecs properly. The whole installation and configuration took me less 2 hours.

3) The onboard video with HDMI out plays everything flawlessly, including 1080p .mkv files, blu-ray and hd-dvd iso's using powerdvd, and live tv (OTA and HD-PVR), and I have no stuttering at all.

Bottomline, it comes down to installing only the codecs that you actually need and make sure that you configure them properly. The only codecs I have installed on this system are AC3Filter, FFDShow Tryouts, CCCP Codec Pack (without FFDShow), Cyberlink H.264, and finally the Arcsoft codecs.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:13 AM
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Okay I know this is off topic, but come on! $200 for the HD100 + $200 for component Blu-Ray player = $400 and completely silent (and both stacked on each other <= same height as desktop pc).

Thats all well and good but the HD-100's are never in stock!
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:13 AM
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1) 780G is an AMD chipset, not Nvidia.

2) I just built myself a client PC with a gigabyte 780G mobo, an AMD X2 BE-2400 and 2 GB DDR2-800. Installed Vista Ultimate on it, then installed Sage Client and the appropriate codecs properly. The whole installation and configuration took me less 2 hours.

3) The onboard video with HDMI out plays everything flawlessly, including 1080p .mkv files, blu-ray and hd-dvd iso's using powerdvd, and live tv (OTA and HD-PVR), and I have no stuttering at all.

Bottomline, it comes down to installing only the codecs that you actually need and make sure that you configure them properly. The only codecs I have installed on this system are AC3Filter, FFDShow Tryouts, CCCP Codec Pack (without FFDShow), Cyberlink H.264, and finally the Arcsoft codecs.
Awesome post! This tells me exactly what I wanted to know.

Yeah, I'm not sure why I typed nVidia 780G. IT's definately AMD.

Thanks!
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:11 PM
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I just have one question about it as I'm thinking about upgrading next week. will the 780G do all of that, in 1080P and VMR9? I just got a 9600GT last week to replace a 8500GT that wouldn't but would love to put that in my main computer if it can handle it.
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:14 AM
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If the 780G can do HD-PVR recordings in VMR9 I would be highly impressed.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:10 AM
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HD-PVR playback looks good in overlay though. So I'm not worried about it.
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:41 AM
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I only cared as I hated not having the transparancy or hardware acceleration option as the UI runs more ragged without it on my current system. Oh well, I can cheap out a little on the board and go with a faster processor or more core instead
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:48 AM
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If the 780G can do HD-PVR recordings in VMR9 I would be highly impressed.
Prepare to be impressed then. I just replaced my server board with a 780G model (Gigabyte) so I could go quad core and it DOES play back everything I've thrown at it with VMR9, up to my screen's 1600x1200 anyway. Yowza.
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:29 PM
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Prepare to be impressed then. I just replaced my server board with a 780G model (Gigabyte) so I could go quad core and it DOES play back everything I've thrown at it with VMR9, up to my screen's 1600x1200 anyway. Yowza.
What codec were you using on this mobo?
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