PIP

[macsupergeek]

I just did a post search and the last time this was brought up was 2006. Sooooo, how about it, I have 5 tuners in my server and they can all record very happily at the same time, so how about being able to see all 5 streams on the screen at once and then pick a window to bring forward -- you know what mean like 3 or 4 boxes on the right side of the screen stacked vertically and then one big screen to the left that is showing video and playing the audio and then using the interface pick say box 2 and do an instant swap. It has to be possible at least for standard TV, maybe not HDTV, but least for standard and even with the 2009 Digital TV as long as you have a decoder box of some kind that you can plug into a tuner card (heh, hurry up and get cable card done already) we will always be able to record. So what is the answer, is it just a feature not implemented yet or is it something more like 4-5 streams cannot be pushed to one client in SageTV.

[GKusnick]

Originally Posted by macsupergeek

...or is it something more like 4-5 streams cannot be pushed to one client in SageTV.

One stream per client is how the system is designed.

That said, it's possible (under Windows at least; I'm not a Mac guy) to run more than one instance of the Placeshifter client on the same PC and thereby view more than one playback stream at once (if your machine can handle it). There's a thread somewhere in the Placeshifter forum that explains how (too lazy to look it up myself just now).

[macsupergeek]

I don't want to see multiple streams in multiple windows -- by my description everyone must know what I am talking about. People speak up, don't you all want the ability to be watching in one pane a video and then a couple smaller windows like OSD when viewing the guide, and then just quickly pop-over to that video if you see something like watching 3-4 college football games at once. C'mon who's with me . . . . .

[lobosrul]

I'm pretty sure this has been brought up since 2006, its all over the feature request thread. Yeah, it would be nice, especially on the HD-100.

[stanger89]

I'm about 99.5% sure it's not possible on the HD100, I don't believe it has the multiple video decoders necessary.

[lobosrul]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I'm about 99.5% sure it's not possible on the HD100, I don't believe it has the multiple video decoders necessary.

What I really meant is, it would be nice on some type of set top extender. I've always thought NFL Sunday Ticket, a really big HDTV, and 4 PBP's (2x2) would be heaven.

[lotusvball]

I have asked for this in some way for years and it has always just been ignored. Interesting things is MythTV has PIP. Never tried it so I don't know how it works but when watch football on Sat. or Sun. It would be a great feature to have.

[NEOSG]

I would love to see this. Wanted it since last World Cup

[AtariJeff]

I use the Sage plugin for DVBDream which can PIP all channels coming in on the same sat. transponder. So, say 7 channels per transponder, 3 DVB-S cards, makes in theory up to 21 PIP windows. Oooh baby! Make it so. I'll have to wait for the 1000 core Intel/AMD skynet AI CPU to come online first...

[pjpjpjpj]

Do we know what speed the HD Extender's network cable jack is? 100 or 1000? If it's 100, it couldn't pass a bunch of HD streams, right? So that would require new hardware from the get-go. And even if the HD Extender currently comes with a gigabit port, this would then require a full gigabit network, or at least the server, any switch/router in the middle, and the extender.

But as stanger said, the HD Extender does the actual video decoding itself; I doubt it could do more than one stream.

For now, when I want two streams (NFL, NCAA sports), I use my TV's function, with an antenna for the other one (I'm in a spot where I get all of my locals OTA with an antenna sitting behind the TV in the living room)... so one picture is coming through the Extender and the other is just live antenna OTA. Not great (no DVR function on one of them), but still convenient!

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

Do we know what speed the HD Extender's network cable jack is? 100 or 1000?

100 AFAIK.

If it's 100, it couldn't pass a bunch of HD streams, right? So that would require new hardware from the get-go. And even if the HD Extender currently comes with a gigabit port, this would then require a full gigabit network, or at least the server, any switch/router in the middle, and the extender.

100Mbps ethernet is capable of 20 ATSC streams theoretically, but probably more like 15 tops realistically.

But as stanger said, the HD Extender does the actual video decoding itself; I doubt it could do more than one stream.

The newer SOCs/ASICs have secondary video decoders for Blu-ray Profile 1.1, so they could handle PIP but I'm pretty sure the HD100s SOC is prior to that.

Just an observation (not a judgement):

Asside from MythTV, I'm not aware of any DVR or PVR, software or hardware that supports PIP. My guess is the vast majority of DVR/PVR users watch so little TV live that PIP makes no sense supporting. I know I fall into that category.

[lobosrul]

Originally Posted by stanger89

100Mbps ethernet is capable of 20 ATSC streams theoretically, but probably more like 15 tops realistically.

ATSC is 19.3 Mbps, so theoretically 5. BD maxes out at 45Mbps I think, and thats the highest bitrate there is right now for home use.

[stanger89]

Woohoo!

Horray for math skills!!!

[mistergq]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Woohoo!

Horray for math skills!!!

did you see the email being forward about the AIG bailout? Basically, AIG is getting $85,000,000,000 bailout. The E-mail proposes instead of giving the 85B to AIG, divide it between each American 18+. The email proposes that there are 200 million US citizens 18 or older, which means $425,000 per person...umm...buddy, you added an extra 3 zeros. That is $425 per person.

[MeInMaui]

Originally Posted by mistergq

did you see the email being forward about the AIG bailout? Basically, AIG is getting $85,000,000,000 bailout. The E-mail proposes instead of giving the 85B to AIG, divide it between each American 18+. The email proposes that there are 200 million US citizens 18 or older, which means $425,000 per person...umm...buddy, you added an extra 3 zeros. That is $425 per person.

Haha. I just e-mailed that correction back to my uncle this morning.

I think many people rely too much on calculators and computers to do math these days, so they can't do simple sanity checks in their head. This is an ongoing pet peeve of mine. Don't get me started.

Aloha,
Mike

[mistergq]

Originally Posted by MeInMaui

Haha. I just e-mailed that correction back to my uncle this morning.

I think many people rely too much on calculators and computers to do math these days, so they can't do simple sanity checks in their head. This is an ongoing pet peeve of mine. Don't get me started.

Aloha,
Mike

what is funny was I kept re-reading it, and counting the zeros, and was like, the numbers just don't look right.

[paulbeers]

Originally Posted by MeInMaui

Haha. I just e-mailed that correction back to my uncle this morning.

I think many people rely too much on calculators and computers to do math these days, so they can't do simple sanity checks in their head. This is an ongoing pet peeve of mine. Don't get me started.

Aloha,
Mike

Hahaha, as did I (didn't get it from my uncle, but to the original sender anyway). I was sitting there thinking. How could it have cost our government 150 Billion to send us all 600 dollars but it would cost them 85 billion to send us all 425,000?

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by MeInMaui

Haha. I just e-mailed that correction back to my uncle this morning.

I think many people rely too much on calculators and computers to do math these days, so they can't do simple sanity checks in their head. This is an ongoing pet peeve of mine. Don't get me started.

Aloha,
Mike

But a calculator may have saved me from looking like an idiot

[lobosrul]

The entire nations debt adds up to about $30,000 per man, woman, and child, irregardless if they pay taxes or not. Thats a scary number IMO.

I'm glad to know that $425 of my tax dollars are going to a bailout of a corporation that made bad decisions. If I did that, I doubt the "govment" would come to my rescue. Still, it beats a bad recession and in the long term the "govment" might make money.

[stanger89]

They already approved ~$200 of your tax dollars to bail out individuals that made bad decisions.