Stop "Watch Live TV" recording??

[manick]

According to FAQ:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...7348#post17348

Why does SageTV *has* to record everything you watch? Why?

WHY?

[paulbeers]

Originally Posted by manick

According to FAQ:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...7348#post17348

Why does SageTV *has* to record everything you watch? Why?

WHY?

All DVR's work like this including Tivo, Cable DVR's, etc. The tuners within the DVR record everything that is received via the tuner onto the hard drive. This is how you are able to rewind/Pause/Fast Forward LiveTV. If it didn't record everything, then you would not be able to do these functions.

This quesiton has been asked and answered.....

My question is always, why does it matter?

[manick]

Originally Posted by paulbeers

My question is always, why does it matter?

Well I don't have infinite HD space and don't want to have to worry about cleaning it up all the time? Look I understand why it does this by default, I just don't understand why it doesn't allow you to turn it off.

[GKusnick]

Because the system isn't designed to allow streaming directly from the capture device to network clients. The server captures to disk; the clients stream from disk. That design is what allows multiple clients to stream independently from the same recording, and it's not likely to change.

Regarding disk space, those temporary files will get cleaned up automatically when space is needed. You don't have to worry about that, unless you're constantly running with a nearly full disk (in which case it's time to either delete some stuff you don't need any more, or upgrade to a bigger disk).

If you really don't want it to record, you can always watch live TV the old-fashioned way, using your TV's built-in tuner, or with the TV-viewing software that came with your capture card.

[mickp]

Originally Posted by manick

Well I don't have infinite HD space and don't want to have to worry about cleaning it up all the time? Look I understand why it does this by default, I just don't understand why it doesn't allow you to turn it off.

Sage removes the shows you've been watching live as soon as you finish watching them. I think that having i.r. (intelligent recording) enabled might change this. If you have a problem with recordings not actually being deleted when you've finished with them let us know. Someone will be able to help.

Some systems use a circular buffer for live tv rather than adding a temporary show recording per show. My experience with a competing product was that using a circular buffer had limitations with regard to the length of time that you could pause tv and made it much more complicated if you decided to record something that you've started to watch.

When I converted to Sage it seemed wrong the way that live tv works. Now it just seems logical.

Mick.

[manick]

Originally Posted by mickp

Sage removes the shows you've been watching live as soon as you finish watching them. I think that having i.r. (intelligent recording) enabled might change this. If you have a problem with recordings not actually being deleted when you've finished with them let us know. Someone will be able to help.

OK as far as disk space goes I'm comfortable with it (it does seem to manage itself), although it's just starting to bother me in another way: the recording hogs up the cpu just enough that if I want to do some work at the same time live tv is running it does feel a bit slow. It is *bearable*, but...

I got a C2D T7250/2GB/8600M(GT) btw, which is pretty decent I'd think.

[GKusnick]

You haven't said what sort of capture device you're using, but with a digital HD tuner, or a decent hardware-encoding analog tuner, CPU usage during recording should be minimal.

Playback could be a different story, depending on your decoders and graphics drivers and whether you have hardware acceleration enabled. Try hitting Pause while watching live TV. If the CPU usage drops, then it's playback CPU load. If it stays constant even while playback is paused, then it's recording load.

[manick]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

You haven't said what sort of capture device you're using, but with a digital HD tuner, or a decent hardware-encoding analog tuner, CPU usage during recording should be minimal.

Playback could be a different story, depending on your decoders and graphics drivers and whether you have hardware acceleration enabled. Try hitting Pause while watching live TV. If the CPU usage drops, then it's playback CPU load. If it stays constant even while playback is paused, then it's recording load.

You're right! It's actually the playback. I just reconfigured video playback to "Basic" (was on "Advanced") and now it sits at ~15% cpu instead of ~50%.
I have a Happauge PVR USB2 AVS Video Capture btw.

I'd say all in all SageTV now runs beautifully - just needed to get the configurations right and get used to a few new concepts :-)

Thanks for all the help!

[eclas]

I did a search and couldn't find any ref.

Every time you start to watch live tv sage starts a recording and doesn't delete it on it's own. ergo, there's a recording in one of the folders that always has to be manually deleted.

Is there any way to NOT have sage record live tv or have it automatically delete those files?

thanks

eclas

* merged with an existing topic that points to the FAQ *

[planetc]

try searching autodelete?

[eclas]

Thanks fpr all the replies.
I do understand why it's recording live tv after reading about the pvr.
I seem to see those recordings sometimes and not others so I'll pay closer attention to whether they get deleted regularly.

thanks again.