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Old 07-04-2008, 01:44 PM
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SATA and IDE conflict? Anyone seen this

I recently discovered a conflict in my server. I had two Sata drives: one WD 300 and a Seagate 500. I then had a IDE controller card for three IDE HDs. On another competitors board, before a thread was pulled, I was able to negotiate a deal to get 2 additional 500 seagate Sata HDs.

Before the HDs arrived, my laptop HD notified me of a potential failure. I contacted Gateway, and they sent me a new one. The HD in my laptop is Sata. So to get the data off, I plugged it into my server. I did this by shutting the server down, opened the case, plugged it in. Turned it on, HD recognized by bios. Once the Windows screen should have appeared, just a blank screen. If I unplug the laptop HD, boots up. I did a hot plug in got the information off the hd I wanted, and then used a program to erase the hard drive to send back to gateway.

Now I plugged in the additional 2 sata hds. After much debugging and debunking, I determined the cause was the IDE card. Once I removed that card, suddenly, the server would boot with all 4 Sata HDs.

Anyone ever have this problem?
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Old 07-04-2008, 06:13 PM
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IRQ conflict with the SATA and IDE. Put the IDE card in another slot if possible, or change hte IRQ in BIOS of the SATA Controller.
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:03 PM
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I am not going to play with it any more. Lost enough hair. I am going to build a NAS and put the IDE drives into it. My question is out of curiosity. I did a google search and pulled up a lot of forums posts with similar problems and no solution posted.
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:13 PM
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What brand and model is the IDE controller?
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:30 PM
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When you add drives, depending on the MB the drives are enumerated by the bios differently. Often times the original C: drive becomes the D: drive.

The MB bios should allow you to choose which drive is the "C:" drive.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:39 PM
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What brand and model is the IDE controller?
You have to love Newegg lets you see your past invoices.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816132005

Just because I like to punish myself, I may install the card with no drives, make sure I have the latest drives, and start hooking them up one by one. But I think its a lost cause and I should just build a NAS instead.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:48 PM
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When you add drives, depending on the MB the drives are enumerated by the bios differently. Often times the original C: drive becomes the D: drive.

The MB bios should allow you to choose which drive is the "C:" drive.
I had the correct drive listed as the first drive to boot from. It lists all the hard drives and you rank them. Still didn't matter.
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:07 AM
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Maybe that's why it has only a 56% five star successful rating at Newegg.
Rosewill is on the cheap side of the brandings, not to say that it is the problem, but it can be affected. I bought many Rosewills products from Newegg, I haven't had a problem yet but everytime I expected there's a chance it might not work just because they are priced so cheap.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:56 AM
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When dealing with add on IDE controller the most common problem with IDE controller is on board bios is set wrong it want to be master boot you need disable that there should be a boot menu allow you to get in the card bios to change option.
Re-seat all IDE PCI and IDE cable.
Why didn't you just copy it over the network it would been a lot eazyer.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:55 PM
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Why didn't you just copy it over the network it would been a lot eazyer.
Are you asking why I didn't copy the drive contents over the network or save programing over the network? I am nervous about recording live TV to a NAS, if that is possible.

Like I said in an earlier post, I am going to set up a NAS for the IDE drives.
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:05 PM
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Maybe that's why it has only a 56% five star successful rating at Newegg.
Rosewill is on the cheap side of the brandings, not to say that it is the problem, but it can be affected. I bought many Rosewills products from Newegg, I haven't had a problem yet but everytime I expected there's a chance it might not work just because they are priced so cheap.
I only trust those stars to a degree. In this particular instance I keep passing the Sage Server because I don't feel like opening the box again...rather play GTA IV.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:35 PM
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It should work be fine to record to a NAS. It's similar to switching to UNC paths which I did years ago, even on local drives.

I've been buying almost exclusively from Newegg for several years and I do use their user reviews as a gauge for product quality. And it does influence my buying decision. And to date, most of the products worked as described. Defects will always happen whether its Rosewill or Sony, it is a matter of bad luck when you receive a DOA.
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:48 AM
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Are you asking why I didn't copy the drive contents over the network or save programing over the network? I am nervous about recording live TV to a NAS, if that is possible.

Like I said in an earlier post, I am going to set up a NAS for the IDE drives.
I used iSCSI for a while... the remote disk looks like a local disk to XP. Performance was equivalent to a local disk (if not faster, the remote was a RAID array), I used a drive performance test tool to compare local and remote disks. You'll need a gigabit network though.

I got rid of the iSCSI because I reconfigured the RAID array to hold more DVDs.
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