new processor

[garyellis]

I have a socket 939 mobo.....My processor is an AMD 3200 +.....what is the most powerful processor I can get now that fits the 939 socket. I don't understand if dual or quad core would help, since all I run is Sage on the computer.

I noticed the 3800+ at a good price...anything better? and will the 3800+ give me significant improvement?

Thanks,

Gary

[bcjenkins]

Originally Posted by garyellis

I have a socket 939 mobo.....My processor is an AMD 3200 +.....what is the most powerful processor I can get now that fits the 939 socket. I don't understand if dual or quad core would help, since all I run is Sage on the computer.

I noticed the 3800+ at a good price...anything better? and will the 3800+ give me significant improvement?

Thanks,

Gary

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d&Order=PRICED

The Egg says the fastest it has is the

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103002

[UFGrayMatter]

does your MOBO handle the X2?

check that first, and go w/ that if you can

[paulbeers]

Before you start buying new processors, what are you trying to accomplish by upgrading?

[garyellis]

HD is starting to push my system to the limit. transitions are slower...SD picture quality is not the best...

If I have 2 HD programs recording at the same time, I can not play a 3rd...

I'm hopeful that the new HD extender will help with some of the output side...So, I don't think I need anything drastically better...Just enough to get past the sluggishness.

I don't believe that my Mobo will handle x2.

I just saw a 4000+ single core at newegg for about $62.

Thanks,

Gary Ellis

[paulbeers]

Probably not a bad route to go then. I just wanted to make sure before any recommendations were made on what processor to pick up, of what you are doing. Thing such as Transcoding, are single threaded and the faster each core is, the better (inessence, an x2 3800 isn't any faster than an 3200), but for overall speed of the system, then either would be fine.

[autoboy]

I'm confused. My PC is recording 4 programs right now, 2 in HD with the HDHR, and 2 in analog with 2 150's and the cpu is at 10%. If I play an HD file, the cpu jumps to 25%. With DxVA cpu use on mpeg2 is light. I'm running a A64 3500+. Why would your computer have problems recording shows and watching HD? HD is already mpeg2 and all the computer has to do is write it to disk. Only transcoding takes significant cpu. If you are trying to transcode HD to an extender than you should get a X2. Sage is designed to be multicore. Your 939 board should be able to support X2 with a bios update.

I'm having speed problems too. Menus are slow and things take a little longer than they used to, but that is because I upgraded to 6.1 and it seems to run slow. Nothing else has changed on my box.

[Wheemer]

Sage is not designed to utilize multicore at all... If you are transcoding to two mvps then both cores are used. And that is not by design, that's just how it happens to work.

[camus]

garyellis,

I would take a look to see if there was another issues before buying a new processor.

I use a 3000 just fine, it can handle recording 2 HD streams and 1 SD, while playing back HD and streaming HD to my client, all while running comskip on these files.

Sage can be sluggish when it is doing none of the above or all of the above.

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by Wheemer

Sage is not designed to utilize multicore at all... If you are transcoding to two mvps then both cores are used. And that is not by design, that's just how it happens to work.

?? SageTV is designed to be multithreaded, so multiple cpus/cores automatically get used.

However, certain subprocesses are not multithreaded -- such as: while an individual transcoding process itself does not make use of multiple threads/cpus, SageTV is fully capable of running multiple transcode processes, so each one of those can run on separate cpus. i.e.: The transcoder is not multithreaded, but SageTV is.

- Andy

[paulbeers]

Originally Posted by Opus4

?? SageTV is designed to be multithreaded, so multiple cpus/cores automatically get used.

However, certain subprocesses are not multithreaded -- such as: while an individual transcoding process itself does not make use of multiple threads/cpus, SageTV is fully capable of running multiple transcode processes, so each one of those can run on separate cpus. i.e.: The transcoder is not multithreaded, but SageTV is.

- Andy

From experience, I have seen this in action. If only recoring and serving Mpeg2 streams to MVP's/clients/etc, both of my cores show fairly even usage (the "peaks and valleys" in windows Task Manager appear to be the same), however, when Transcoding only 1 CPU is utilized for transcoding (the peaks and valleys in windows Task Manager are completely different with CPU 1 showing 80% usage and CPU 2 showing maybe 10).

That is why I asked what he uses Sage for. If he is transcoding and the 3200 wasn't cutting it, then the x2 3800 wasn't going to make a difference (since the 3800 is just 2 - 3200's), but for overall system boost for anything but transcoding, the 3800 would help.