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Old 04-30-2007, 12:04 PM
Mahoney Mahoney is offline
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FSE - Only for Performance?

Is there any benefit to FSE other than performance? If your hardware is up to doing VMR9 with whatever filters you want at full frame rate, can you leave FSE off and see no difference in image quality?
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:02 PM
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Is there any benefit to FSE other than performance? If your hardware is up to doing VMR9 with whatever filters you want at full frame rate, can you leave FSE off and see no difference in image quality?
Without FSE, VMR9 rendering will produce tearing effect when playing back video. At least that is the case for myself.
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:43 AM
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If you find a combination of hardware that doesn't need FSE by all means post it here

Even with a p4 3.8ghz , 2gigs of ddr2 ram and the purevideo codec without FSE .. stutter on HD
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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It seems to me that graphics cards are still playing catchup with HD video. I read a review the other day that showed how the new nVidia 8600GTS chips have full offload for H.264 video. Although MPEG2 and VC1 still get the standard treatment.

What kind of compression is used for OTA and QAM broadcasts?
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:36 PM
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If you find a combination of hardware that doesn't need FSE by all means post it here

Even with a p4 3.8ghz , 2gigs of ddr2 ram and the purevideo codec without FSE .. stutter on HD
I'm not doing HD at the moment. Though I'd have thought that with the new 8600 graphics cards that offload the entire h.264 workload to a dedicated chip on the card you should be able to cope with VMR9 and h.264 and no FSE.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:19 PM
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If you find a combination of hardware that doesn't need FSE by all means post it here

Even with a p4 3.8ghz , 2gigs of ddr2 ram and the purevideo codec without FSE .. stutter on HD
E6600(2.4)/ASUS P5B-deluxe/1Gb kingston PC2-8500
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:34 PM
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No tearing, FSE off. I think Vista has something to do with it - I would get tearing with XP without FSE.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:57 PM
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jdamore,

I would guess that GPU is what gets you by?

kltye,

Are you using VMR9?
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:32 PM
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jdamore,

I would guess that GPU is what gets you by?

kltye,

Are you using VMR9?
Yes, I am. Forgot to mention that.
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:34 PM
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I'm doing it on a Sepmpron 3000 with a 7600GT, 84.21 drivers, Purevideo 1.0.223.
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