Digital TV: A Cringley Crash Course, GO AWAY!

[GTwannabe]

How do I get SageTV to stop "intelligently" recording Digital TV: A Cringley Crash Course from PBS digital every day? Sometimes it will record and keep 5 or 6 recordings of the show. I've tried marking them all as Watched, repeatedly marking them as Don't Like, but nothing works. Any ideas?

[Opus4]

You can try enabling this setting: Detailed Setup -> Customize -> Use aggressive negative profilgin for Intelligent Recordings.

What I sometimes do is select the show I don't want, choose to view the Past Airings, highlight the Future Airings entry in the resulting list, then use the Don't Like command to mark all future airings of that show as Don't Like. Some shows seem to take more hits before they stop recording because there must be something about them that ties into just about everything else you've watched.

- Andy

[GTwannabe]

I have aggressive negative profiling enabled.

I searched for the show title, marked all all 26 previous airings as Don't Like and Watched. I also set all the available future airings (until May) as Watched and Don't Like.

Viewing my SageTV recording schedule informs me that Sage still plans to record all those future airings of the show (even with the little Watched and Don't Like icons)

[Opus4]

Don't set them as Watched... that says you watched it, and if you watched it, you must have liked something about it. Remove the Watched tags.

Finally, it takes a while to update the schedule; it won't update immediately.

- Andy

[CanadianEh]

Hmm.. I dunno... I think deep down inside, you really want to watch that show daily... several times

/sorry - couldn't resist

[flavius]

The Intelligent recording feature lacks, umh, intelligence. To be fair, it finds all sorts of stuff - that's why I have it enabled, but it sucks when it comes to avoiding recordings. My NSHO (not so humble opinion).

[dblaine2]

I agree. You can use nielm's Intelligent Suggestions module to help "train" or preview what will be recorded.

[mayamaniac]

Or install the webserver plugin by nielm also, you can train it there also.

[waynedunham]

Originally Posted by flavius

The Intelligent recording feature lacks, umh, intelligence. To be fair, it finds all sorts of stuff - that's why I have it enabled, but it sucks when it comes to avoiding recordings. My NSHO (not so humble opinion).

I have to disagree. If you A) NEVER, EVER, watch live TV, or if so make danged sure you only watch something you LIKE live B) keep the video on menus OFF, and C) follow those basic instructions that Opus4 posted, then it works fairly well.

I've had it turned on for a couple years now with a 14 day lookahead and rarely have to train it any more. About the only time I have to do a small retrain is when some new show comes on that it thinks I might like, that I don't want to record.

[flavius]

Well, if A) and B) and C) and your not allowed to marry or live with your partner

Sage IR is for single nerds only?

[GTwannabe]

Intelligent Recording does seem to work well for the most part. Sometimes it'll do dumb things like record Spanish movies, despite me never watching them and flagging every single one as "Don't Like."

I would like an "anti-favorite" function; for example, when I mark a show as "Don't Like", I'd like to be able to elaborate:

Never record shows matching this title
Never record this category
Never record shows matching the following keywords

Also, Intelligent Recording gets confused when a show is available on an HD and SD station at the same time. Sage will routinely record both channels and waste my disk space. I know the shows have different ID's, but the fact that the shows have exactly the same title and air at exactly the same time on 2 different channels should tell Sage that I only want 1 recording.

[nielm]

An anti-favorite, like the Anti-Favorites customisation by flachbar

[sainswor99]

For the most part, IR does well for me. At times, I wish there were ways to tell it that "I really like this show" vs "I kind of like this show" or "find more shows like this" vs "this is OK but I don't need more of the same".

Stu

[waynedunham]

Originally Posted by flavius

Well, if A) and B) and C) and your not allowed to marry or live with your partner

Sage IR is for single nerds only?

I am one of those "single nerds", so I guess I just can't see why people can't learn to use the remote control.

Sage is for recording shows and watching those recordings. The TV (i.e. using straight cable, or cable box but NOT going through SageTV) is for watching live TV, and the watching of live TV should ONLY be done in rare circumstances. I can't really think of any "circumstances" however. The only time I watch anything "semi-live" is a sporting event and even then I record it and watch it delayed so that I don't have to watch any commercials. I try to time it so that when the game/event ends I'm just about up to "live".

However, I also feel that if it's something worth watching live then Sage should know about it because it's something I want to watch anyway and I need it recorded so that I can watch it when I want.
I mean, if it's not something you'd want Sage to record, what the heck are you doing watching it, live or otherwise, anyway?

[Patilan]

Guess what happens to "Intelligent Recordings" when you fall asleep while watching live TV!

[ke6guj]

Originally Posted by Patilan

Guess what happens to "Intelligent Recordings" when you fall asleep while watching live TV!

Thats why you need to run flachbar's "auto-sleep" plugin. It works in SageMC and will auto-sleep a SageClient or MVP, if there is no remote usage in a set period of time. Works perfectly for auto-sleeping the client in the evening after I've gone to sleep.

[jominor]

Originally Posted by waynedunham

I am one of those "single nerds", so I guess I just can't see why people can't learn to use the remote control.

Sage is for recording shows and watching those recordings. The TV (i.e. using straight cable, or cable box but NOT going through SageTV) is for watching live TV, and the watching of live TV should ONLY be done in rare circumstances. I can't really think of any "circumstances" however. The only time I watch anything "semi-live" is a sporting event and even then I record it and watch it delayed so that I don't have to watch any commercials. I try to time it so that when the game/event ends I'm just about up to "live".

However, I also feel that if it's something worth watching live then Sage should know about it because it's something I want to watch anyway and I need it recorded so that I can watch it when I want.
I mean, if it's not something you'd want Sage to record, what the heck are you doing watching it, live or otherwise, anyway?

I'm married, but I've always used IR until recently when I lost my largest drive. I didn't have to space, I felt, to support it and my remaining archived shows. However, now with 1.2T of storage, it's going back on.

I've got about 3 years of IR training and it has picked up some good stuff. When I mark a batch of shows as "Don't like", it ususually doesn't record the show.

[teknubic]

This is the very reason I have disabled intelligent recording. I wrestled with SageTV and its tenacity to record Crash Course for a week before turning IR off.
I think the best fix for this is to call or write PBS and tell them that they need to make them all the same showID. Marking it as watched will keep it from recording any more.