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Old 02-10-2007, 05:49 PM
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HD OTA Questions

I am currently using Sage with an Nvidia DualTV, 2 DirecTV tuners and a MediaMVP for playback on my TV, which is only SD.

Can I, assuming I can get HD OTA, play the recorded HD through the MediaMVP on my SD TV? I assume this would not be as good as if I had a HD TV, but shouldn't it be as good as or better than my DirecTV now?

Based on what I have read here it seems I may have to convert the recording before I do this, at least until an HD version of a media extender comes out. Is this the case, and once an HD media extender is available, can I use the HD extender on my SD TV?

As far as the HD OTA, I am in a remote location (Sonora, CA), about 80-100 miles from the nearest tower, however I am at 3000 ft and on the side of a cliff and suspect that I may be able to get a good signal. What is the cheapest way for me to tell if I can get a signal? Can I just get some cheap rabbit ears and hook them up to my SD TV? Or do I actually need to purchase an HD tuner to determine this?

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Old 02-10-2007, 08:24 PM
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I am in a remote location (Sonora, CA)
Hey, my wife grew up in Sonora. Her Mom still lives there. We spend a couple of months a year there, in fact, but I've never tested out the OTA HD reception.

You could try checking http://antennaweb.org, but I'm not sure to what degree they take topography into account.

On the MVP question, I believe the SageTV server can transcode HD on the fly for MVP clients, but don't quote me on that, since I don't own an MVP.
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:06 AM
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A somewhat similiar conversation occurred here recently. Not sure that it exactly answers your questions (which I am interested in as well.)

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Old 02-12-2007, 03:53 PM
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In that thread invisiblepin asks:

"Several of the hd tv tuner cards say that they can produce a MPEG-2 file. Are there any MPEG-2 files that the Media MVP wouldn't be able to play?"

If this works that would solve the problem, won't it?

If you had a card that only encoded in HD another option would be to automatically convert the HD to MPEG-2 in the background. You might have problems if you wanted to watch live tv, but otherwise I think it should work...

This may be a stupid question, but is there such a thing as an HD transcoder card? That works with Sage? This would solve the problem with the processor load involved with transcoding these files.

It seems like there should be a way to do this...

Thanks everyone for your help,
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:57 PM
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SageTV 6 is supposed to be able to play HD shows through to a MVP. However, it really depends on your setup. The server has to transcode the HD show on the fly.

My setup cannot do this, something about the Intel procs, from what I have heard the newer AMD procs are better at this. One test is to download an HD show into your imported media and test it out. Hopefully it'll work.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:28 AM
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One test is to download an HD show into your imported media and test it out. Hopefully it'll work.
Hadn't thought of that. Any place to easily get a 10-second or so clip to try?
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:22 AM
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Hadn't thought of that. Any place to easily get a 10-second or so clip to try?

whoa - you're not thinking about doing this on an 800mhz P3 are you? not a chance in hell of that happening.

i have a P4 2.66ghz (533 bus) in my server that will transcode everything except for HD shows - or at least it wont transcode them so that they are watchable.

thinking about sticking a P4 3.0e into the box and knocking it up to 3.3ghz and see it that will do the trick. one guy said that his 1thlon 64 3500 overclocked a little bit did the trick and it's performance isn't a whole lot stronger than a P4 3.2 stock.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:45 AM
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Hadn't thought of that. Any place to easily get a 10-second or so clip to try?

Apple has HD trailers on their website now, http://www.apple.com/trailers/

Microsoft has some HD content you can download, http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...tshowcase.aspx

Although its an exe that you download so I am not quite sure what else it installs.

I didnt catch what your system stats were, but like GbrNole said, I dont think your proc will be able to handle it. Worth a download and test though.
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:06 PM
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I didnt catch what your system stats were, but like GbrNole said, I dont think your proc will be able to handle it. Worth a download and test though.
Thanks. I didn't intend to try it (well, I might *try* it) but it was really just planning for future upgrading. Would be nice to know (on a future rig) that I can stream HD before getting too deep.

Appreciate the links.
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