Anybody using Reclock with FSE?

[stanger89]

Has anyone else tried to use Reclock with Sage in FSE mode? Whenever I try it, reclock complains about bad driver support (or whatever the message is).

I've recently become interested in Reclock again now that I've found out I can run my PJ at 48Hz (oh does that make film silky-smooth), and that reclock has the capability to run a VBS script to change refresh rate based on content.

[Polypro]

I could give it a shot. I read about it way back when...can you synopsize some of it's benefits? (I have silky smooth tickers right now).

P

[stanger89]

The basic theory of reclock is that it makes the video card the master clock instead of the audio card. Audio and video rarely stay in sync on a PC (for whatever) reason, but usually the audio is the master clock, and video frames are dropped to keep them in sync. By making the video the master clock, audio is messed with instead of video, and is far less noticable. At least that's the theory.

Basically reclock is supposed to smooth out the occasional or "micro"-studders as they are sometimes called.

But like you, I run without it and don't have any issues.

However, there is one issue that most everybody suffers from, and that's the judder that's caused by the 3:2 pulldown applied to film to convert it from 24fps to 60 fps.

Well the other day I finally got ambitious enough to setup my HTPC to feed my PJ with 48Hz (so there's a 2:2 cadence instead of 3:2). My PJ will actually "frame lock" (that's what Infocus calls it) to 48Hz, and man that's nice. I don't think I've ever seen film look that smooth at home. Kind of like DNM but without the artifacts.

Just to be clear though, there are two things going on here, first that reclock changes the master clock, and second that running video at the right display rate (ie a multiple of the framerate - 48Hz for 24fps, 60Hz for 30/60fps) results in much smoother video.

Reclock won't make the video smoother, or compensate for a non-ideal refresh rate. However apparently it can execute powerstrip commands to change timings based on content so, theoretically, it could be setup to automatically change the refresh rate to 48Hz for 24fps content, and 60Hz for 30/60fps content.

[parkimar]

Hi,

not sure if this is what you are after, but you could try altering Reclocks video settings, normally it uses Direct 3D (Preffered) or something - switch it too the other setting (I forget the name - there are only 2).

Windows MCE has the same problem.

Cheers

Mark

[blade]

Originally Posted by parkimar

not sure if this is what you are after, but you could try altering Reclocks video settings, normally it uses Direct 3D (Preffered) or something - switch it too the other setting (I forget the name - there are only 2).

I had to do the same thing to get reclock to work.

[stanger89]

You mean change it to DirectShow. I'll have to give that a shot.

[corykim]

Originally Posted by stanger89

You mean change it to DirectShow. I'll have to give that a shot.

Yes, I had to do that also. I think that SageTV prevents ReClock from working with its default settings.

[briands]

Originally Posted by stanger89

The basic theory of reclock is that it makes the video card the master clock instead of the audio card. Audio and video rarely stay in sync on a PC (for whatever) reason, but usually the audio is the master clock, and video frames are dropped to keep them in sync. By making the video the master clock, audio is messed with instead of video, and is far less noticable. At least that's the theory.

Basically reclock is supposed to smooth out the occasional or "micro"-studders as they are sometimes called.

But like you, I run without it and don't have any issues.

However, there is one issue that most everybody suffers from, and that's the judder that's caused by the 3:2 pulldown applied to film to convert it from 24fps to 60 fps.

Well the other day I finally got ambitious enough to setup my HTPC to feed my PJ with 48Hz (so there's a 2:2 cadence instead of 3:2). My PJ will actually "frame lock" (that's what Infocus calls it) to 48Hz, and man that's nice. I don't think I've ever seen film look that smooth at home. Kind of like DNM but without the artifacts.

Just to be clear though, there are two things going on here, first that reclock changes the master clock, and second that running video at the right display rate (ie a multiple of the framerate - 48Hz for 24fps, 60Hz for 30/60fps) results in much smoother video.

Reclock won't make the video smoother, or compensate for a non-ideal refresh rate. However apparently it can execute powerstrip commands to change timings based on content so, theoretically, it could be setup to automatically change the refresh rate to 48Hz for 24fps content, and 60Hz for 30/60fps content.

Stanger, is this working for you in Sage? I have the HTPC in the theater set to 48 hz because we watch mostly movies (or film based TV), but it is TERRIBLE for watching video like sporting events (which I capture with Nvidia Dual card from my Dish211 box).

Will the Powerstrip switching work in FSE mode?

Thanks!