Java 6.0 is released

[nielm]

Java 6.0 is now released. It is not yet on www.java.com, but is up on the Sun java site (select Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6)

I am downloading it at the moment so have not yet tried it, but I do know that there is 1 major bug solved (the VMR9 handle leak in Sage), and 1 bug introduced ([the Sage Window class is no longer set to 'Sage.SpecialWindow -- which may break some Girder scripts and does break my ATI RW plugin).

If you are using an XMLTV plugin that requires XERCES.jar, then my XML show info generator (and webserver xml out, and rss feed generators) will also be broken (java 6's XML writing is not compaible with the ancient XERCES.jar that these plugins require))

It would be nice if someone from Sage would let us know whether they fully support Sage under JRE 6.0, or whether it is an 'at your own risk' thing

[Motofreak75]

this java version also breaks your XmlGenerator (you win some and you lose some)

I get this in the sagetv_0

RecordingXmlGenerator: Unable to write xml for file: MediaFile[id=2281541 A[2085067,2085065,"Dr. Seuss' How Grinch Stole... ",45120@1210.00:00,120] host=media-server encodedBy=DVB_S on 127.0.0.1:6969 DVD Standard Play format=MPEG2-PS 0:00:00 0 kbps [#0 Video[MPEG2-Video 29.97003 fps 544x480 4:3 interlaced]#1 Audio[MP2 48000 Hz 2 channels 160 kbps MAIN idx=1 id=c0]] D:\VIDEOS\DrSeussHowGrinchStole-2085067-0.mpg, Seg0[Sun 12/10 0:00:04.063-Sun 12/10 2:00:03.996]] -- exception:java.lang.AbstractMethodError: org.apache.xerces.dom.DocumentImpl.getXmlStandalone()Z

And it creates a DrSeussHowGrinchStole-2085067-0.mpg.xmltmp without going any further.

Going back to 1.42.11 for me

[emok]

FYI:

In november, an updated to Java 5 was released 1.5.0_10 that is supposed to fix the handle leak problem. From the release notes:

6399321 hotspot jni Event Handle Leak while using JNI

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp

I installed it last night. Haven't had much time to play with it.

[GKusnick]

Originally Posted by Motofreak75

this java version also breaks your XmlGenerator

I've been using XmlGenerator with the Java 1.6 RCs for some time without issues. Haven't tried the release yet, but it seems odd for this to suddenly break between RC and release.

From your error log it looks like you might have a non-standard DOM implementation installed as part of an Apache setup, and that's what's breaking. But I'm really just guessing there since I don't have any hands-on experience with Apache.

[nielm]

Motofreak75: are you (or were you at some time in the past) using an XMLTV importer? If so, do you have a xerces.jar file in the JARS or jre_x_x_x/lib/ext?

The Java 6 XML writing (which my webserver and XML generator) uses is not compatible with this old version of xerces.jar... I would say remove xerces.jar, but this may break your XMLTV importer...

(edited above post)

[Motofreak75]

I'm still using Demideus importer because I have no choice, since Sage doesn't support my device with WDM drivers.... And so far I using the old java version work with everything Its been running for over a year now running smoothly/correction problem for the most part. just a little laggy with v6 and the UI.

Unless anyone can offer another xml importer, it looks like I'm SOL.

[MattJackson86]

As Java 6 has just been released as the final version, any advantages of going to it for sagetv?

[StephaneM]

Hello,

Originally Posted by Motofreak75

Unless anyone can offer another xml importer, it looks like I'm SOL.

See my signature for this : my Importer doesn't need the xerces parser.

Regards,
Stéphane.

[doc]

Originally Posted by StephaneM

Hello,

See my signature for this : my Importer doesn't need the xerces parser.

Regards,
Stéphane.

The only plugins I use are the cerces.jar XML importer and Nielm's webserver, so it looks like I'll be testing your importer this weekend

[SHS]

1 bug introduced ([the Sage Window class is no longer set to 'Sage.SpecialWindow -- which may break some Girder scripts and does break my ATI RW plugin).

It need be change to SunAwtFrame

[dblaine2]

Looks like nielm is doing some coding.

I agree it would be nice to hear from Sage on the risk/benefits of going to Java 6.

[jominor]

Originally Posted by dblaine2

Looks like nielm is doing some coding.

I agree it would be nice to hear from Sage on the risk/benefits of going to Java 6.

New Splash page?
Cross platform system tray support?
It is reputed to be faster.

[nielm]

It does feel faster, especially with the V6 RC improvements in the media library and photo support. There seem to be a lot fewer spinning Sage icons

[scm]

Originally Posted by nielm

It does feel faster, especially with the V6 RC improvements in the media library and photo support. There seem to be a lot fewer spinning Sage icons

I agree. Things do appear faster. I need more time to play with it, though. (If this job of mine wouldn't keep getting in the way of me playing with Sage!! )

BTW, does Java affect the Sage service, or just the GUI? Is there a value to updating it on my server?

[nielm]

Originally Posted by scm

BTW, does Java affect the Sage service

yes: the service is also written in Java (and especially if you use MVP's)

[Opus4]

SageTV still recommends Java v1.4.2. While there shouldn't be problems using the latest version of Java, it isn't going to be fully tested and supported for use with SageTV until later.

I suppose that qualifies as a "use at your own risk" type of situation.

- Andy

[reggie14]

I just want to say that my MVP is much, much, much more responsive with Java 1.6 versus 1.4.2. There's no more pressing a button and having to wait a full second until anything happens. I realize that is a known issue with 1.4.2 in certain circles around here, but everyone else should take note.

[doc]

Originally Posted by reggie14

I just want to say that my MVP is much, much, much more responsive with Java 1.6 versus 1.4.2. There's no more pressing a button and having to wait a full second until anything happens. I realize that is a known issue with 1.4.2 in certain circles around here, but everyone else should take note.

I agree, its like I have a new toy

I've also moved from an old XMLTV importer to StephaneM's. It works fine on v6 as is a lot friendlier than the old one I was using. Being able to delete a source and add it back in again now is so easy, none of the old remapping channels that used to take an afternoon with a deskful of paper channel listings.

I'll give a donation after a few more days of successful importing so I can automate it fully. Its worth a donation for the saved time and hassle of adding back in the sources.

[stanger89]

Anybody tried Eclipse with Java 6. Ever since I upgraded to Java 6 (and Eclipse 3.2) I can't save anything anymore, I get an undefined method error.

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: org.eclipse.core.internal.localstore.HistoryStore2.<init>(Lorg/eclipse/core/internal/resources/Workspace;Lorg/eclipse/core/runtime/IPath;I)V
	at org.eclipse.core.internal.resources.ResourcesCompatibility.createHistoryStore(ResourcesCompatibility.java:41)
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
	at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
	at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
	at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
	at org.eclipse.core.internal.resources.ResourcesCompatibilityHelper.createHistoryStore(ResourcesCompatibilityHelper.java:73)
...

[geogecko]

Just reporting, that Java 6 seems to be running great on my system. Seems much snappier than the previous beta was.