cutting sagetv recordings

vorius · #1 09-11-2006, 08:40 AM

is it possible to cut segments out of sagetv recorded video without losing quality and without decoding/re-encoding video? It's stored as MPEG-2 right? I guess that's pretty standard format? Do you use any particular programs to cut these videos that you'd recommend?

bcjenkins · #2 09-11-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vorius

is it possible to cut segments out of sagetv recorded video without losing quality and without decoding/re-encoding video? It's stored as MPEG-2 right? I guess that's pretty standard format? Do you use any particular programs to cut these videos that you'd recommend?

Video Redo.

http://www.videoredo.com

gplasky · #3 09-11-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bcjenkins

Video Redo.

http://www.videoredo.com

I second that.

Gerry

Mike · #4 09-11-2006, 08:11 PM

Here's a third....We must have a quorum. VideoRedo is a good product that's easy to use. not very flashy to look at, but it works well.

MBrew

hemicuda · #5 09-12-2006, 05:46 AM

What about the mpeg tool that comes w/ the Hauppauge cards from nanocosmos?

destrekor · #6 09-12-2006, 08:22 AM

here's another question: can one use VideoRedo to crop the video? Or can AutoGK do that? Reason I ask is, my recordings all have that top section of moving white blocks, common to cable tv it seems but not seen on a tv... just wondering if I can get rid of that in any easy manner.

blade · #7 09-12-2006, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by destrekor

here's another question: can one use VideoRedo to crop the video? Or can AutoGK do that? Reason I ask is, my recordings all have that top section of moving white blocks, common to cable tv it seems but not seen on a tv... just wondering if I can get rid of that in any easy manner.

That sounds like the closed caption data. It's there on the TV, it's just not visible because TVs use overscan. If you increase the overscan in Sage it won't be visible.

Of course if you're wanting to archive the show or play it using a player that can't adjust the overscan you'd still want to crop. I have no experience with that though.

jbarr · #8 09-12-2006, 09:54 AM

This is slightly off-topic, but I have been playing around with a free "standalone" DVD Authoring application called DVDStyler. It requires no installation, running from a single directory tree, and can be easily run from a USB Memory Stick. It is a basic, yet decent DVD authoring tool. While it's certainly no ULEAD or other high-end product, it's quick, clean, and doesn't require "installation".

vorius · #9 09-14-2006, 06:24 PM

Thanks for the suggestion guys, VideoRedo is a really nice and easy to use tool, only problem is in my first night using it it is cutting video clips with synchronization problems between sound and video. I see people's lips move a second or two before the audio of their voice comes in. It's kinda annoying... how can I fix this easily?

BobPhoenix · #10 09-14-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vorius

Thanks for the suggestion guys, VideoRedo is a really nice and easy to use tool, only problem is in my first night using it it is cutting video clips with synchronization problems between sound and video. I see people's lips move a second or two before the audio of their voice comes in. It's kinda annoying... how can I fix this easily?

There is an Adjust Audio Syncronization menu option in VideoRedo that you can use. Look at the 2nd menu option of the Tools menu in VideoRedo. I've never had to use it so can't tell you anything about it but it is in the Help file for VideoRedo.

BobP.

jbarr · #11 09-18-2006, 06:45 AM

Personally, I would love to see a feature/plugin created for SageTV that, while watching recorded video content, would enable me to simply mark "in" and "out" points in the video, and save the marked "clip" as a new recording.

Imagine while viewing a show, you see some content that you would like to save for later or to show someone else, but don't want to have to save the entire show (for example, an interesting news blurb, a commercial, or whatever.) You would pause the video at the beginning of the clip, invoke some new menu with an option of setting the first "in" point, then resume playback/ff/rew, invoke the menu again to mark the second "out" point, invoke the menu once again and save the clip between the two points to a new, viewable file. Combined with the Burn to DVD plugin, this could be very, very powerful.

While this certainly can be done currently by using many external video editors, the real power would be to be able to use it from within SageTV without having to exit to an external program.

dflachbart · #12 09-18-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jbarr

Personally, I would love to see a feature/plugin created for SageTV that, while watching recorded video content, would enable me to simply mark "in" and "out" points in the video, and save the marked "clip" as a new recording.

Imagine while viewing a show, you see some content that you would like to save for later or to show someone else, but don't want to have to save the entire show (for example, an interesting news blurb, a commercial, or whatever.) You would pause the video at the beginning of the clip, invoke some new menu with an option of setting the first "in" point, then resume playback/ff/rew, invoke the menu again to mark the second "out" point, invoke the menu once again and save the clip between the two points to a new, viewable file. Combined with the Burn to DVD plugin, this could be very, very powerful.

While this certainly can be done currently by using many external video editors, the real power would be to be able to use it from within SageTV without having to exit to an external program.

You can do this (for one clip) in SageMC, though it is limited to starting/stopping recording of the clip at the real time when you press the button (that's all the Sage core functionality currently allows) ...

Dirk

jbarr · #13 09-18-2006, 07:44 AM

Thanks for the info. I'm currently using the standard STV, but maybe soon, I'll look into SageMC. I'm looking into replacing my old 26" tube TV with a "real" HDTV, so once I do that, I'll probably have a greater incentive to move to SageMC.

ChePazzo · #14 09-18-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vorius

is it possible to cut segments out of sagetv recorded video without losing quality and without decoding/re-encoding video? It's stored as MPEG-2 right? I guess that's pretty standard format? Do you use any particular programs to cut these videos that you'd recommend?

I use TMPEGenc to do this, but the problem I have is that I lose the program information if I change filenames. I Tried saving it into a different directory, while preserving the filename, then copying it back to the 'Recorded Shows' but Sage was confused because it thought that the program was 30min, instead of the shortened 20min. It played fine, but the bar at the bottom was funky looking.

This info is stored in wiz.bin, right? Is there any way to edit that or to force an update for a specific directory?

bcjenkins · #15 09-19-2006, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jbarr

Personally, I would love to see a feature/plugin created for SageTV that, while watching recorded video content, would enable me to simply mark "in" and "out" points in the video, and save the marked "clip" as a new recording.

mmm dCut in MCE.. Nice utility.

B

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