Porting SageTV to run on D-Link DSM-520

[nicklaz]

PGPfan,

yes, i noticed that hdmi output was missing. it has dvi though, which i thought was the same quality as hdmi minus the audio. is this wrong?

thanks, nick

[insomniac]

and who actually uses their tv's audio anyway? In the HTPC world, I believe it would be blasphemy not to use your tricked out, tripple shot carmel machiato, 6.1 DD surround sound receiver.

DVI is fine with me. Ill take the first extender that supports a sage client!

I.

[blade]

Originally Posted by insomniac

and who actually uses their tv's audio anyway?

Probably a lot of us. I do simply because I don't want to clutter up the living room with a receiver, speakers, etc.... It is bad enough having a 5" tall HTPC next to the TV.

If I ever have a dedicated home theater room I'll get into all the sound goodness, but for now I don't have a good place to put all the equipment needed.

[insomniac]

my HTPC hides behind my tv. The only thing people see is the USBUIRT dongle. I had the thought long ago to make my HTPC presentable, but then I had the question, "why? Especially when people dont need to see anything?"

YMMV

[blade]

Mine was hidden behind a large chair next to the TV in a mid-tower case, but that is no longer an option and I had a silverstone case lying around so I'm using that for the time being.

[bcjenkins]

Originally Posted by insomniac

and who actually uses their tv's audio anyway? In the HTPC world, I believe it would be blasphemy not to use your tricked out, tripple shot carmel machiato, 6.1 DD surround sound receiver.

DVI is fine with me. Ill take the first extender that supports a sage client!

I.

I use my TVs speaker system even for HD content. I find the simplicity perfect for me.

B

[chewskydoo]

FYI, the price for these is falling. $159.99 now. Any new progress on getting the source code?

[JUC]

Originally Posted by chewskydoo

FYI, the price for these is falling. $159.99 now. Any new progress on getting the source code?

Wow--that is a great price....as far as us mere mortals getting the source code--it looks like it ain't gonna happen. But--i'm still optomistic sage has what they need to get things going on this and its just a matter of time. Here's hoping for a nice x-mas gift from the sage team.
Juc

[Nate]

Any news on an HD extender yet?

[yacht_boy]

Just read this whole thread with great interest.

Questions:
--Any word on what happened with D-Link and GPL-Violations.org?

--Any update on an HD Extender yet? I'm ready to pull the plug for the Sage-branded MediaMVP, but don't want to do that if it's going to be replaced in a couple of months by something better

--The Zensonic Z500 is now down to $299. Any word on whether people have had more luck getting complete source code from Zensonic than from D-Link?

Jason

[JUC]

nothing really new. I never heard back from gpl-violations.org people. When i asked sage whether i should pursue more formal action against Dlink i was basically told they 'had what they needed' and i didn't need to keep pushing. So that is where i stepped out. I had hoped that based on that statement something was going to happen soon. But that was months ago, holidays have past and I don't know anymore. Maybe we'll see something at CES. Lets hope.
Juc

[jquinlan]

Originally Posted by JUC

Maybe we'll see something at CES. Lets hope.

Found something at the CES site:
"SageTV Media Center UltraHD maximizes the HD viewing experience by making it possible to record and stream TV in High Definition throughout the home."

At the bottom of page:
http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/awar...sp?category=85

Image of Device I have not seem, yet:
http://www.cesweb.org/shared_files/i...nphoto5034.jpg

Is this something coming as an extender?

Found to be old, nothing new found for the HD users.

[xred]

Originally Posted by jquinlan

Found something at the CES site:
"SageTV Media Center UltraHD maximizes the HD viewing experience by making it possible to record and stream TV in High Definition throughout the home."

At the bottom of page:
http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/awar...sp?category=85

Image of Device I have not seem, yet:
http://www.cesweb.org/shared_files/i...nphoto5034.jpg

Is this something coming as an extender?

I believe thats last years (2006) CES Page. Looking at the CES 2006 announcement reminded me that Sage went from version 3.x to version 6.x in the course of 12 months! If this keeps up we will be at version 9.x or even 10.x this time next year.

I am looking under the CES 2007 pages for any Sage announcements but haven't spotted anything yet. I can't imagine they would announce anything big at CES without announcing it here on the forums to their loyal masses =)

[sleonard]

Yep, that was last years CES announcement and the "device" is just an Origen HTPC computer case.

Scott

[bcjenkins]

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...d=1#post200072

[yacht_boy]

Wrote to the FSF-violations people and got this reply:

Thanks for getting in touch with us about this. We've been in touch with
D-Link about other issues in the past, so I believe we'll be able to get
this resolved easily.

A more recent version of the DSM 520 source, however, appears to be
available at
<ftp://ftp.dlink.com/GPL/dsm520/DSM520_LGPL_release.2006.09.08.tgz>. Did
you review this? Does it address the problems with missing source you
outlined? Since I don't have the product on hand, it's hard for me to know
what's supposed to be there.

Best regards,


--
Brett Smith
Licensing Compliance Engineer, Free Software Foundation

Can someone who can parse the source code look at it to see if it's got what we need? Either way, let me know so I can get back to Brett.

Thanks,

Jason

[ChaosKnight]

README of DSM520 LGPL source

kernel: the kernel source code for DSM520
toolchain-69.tgz : The toolchain. Untar the toolchain in /.
externalib/libcurlarm-nossl.tar.gz : curl
externalib/curl-7.11.0.tgz : curl
externalib/id3lib-3.8.3.tar.gz : ID3 library
externalib/libmad-0.15.1b.tar.gz : libmad
externalib/libogg-1.0.tgz : ogg
externalib/libvorbis-1.0.tgz : libvorbis
externalib/microwindows-0.89pre8-alpha-2.tar.gz : microwin
externalib/mxml-2.2.tar.gz : mxml
externalib/tiff-3.7.1.tgz : tiff
externalib/tremor.tgz : tremor
network/busybox : busybox
network/dhcpcd : dhcpcd
network/wireless : wireless tools
network/zeroconf : zeroconf
util/src/simpleinit : simpleinit

[dklayn]

I'm not sure if this is everything we'll need to get a port working (as I've only spent ~10 min looking at the source), but it seems D-Link finally complied.

The following directories in the kernel source are a fun read:
include/asm-armnommu/arch-em86xx/
arch/armnommu/mach-em86xx/
Esp. the mambo/tango files in 'include' which list the entire register sets for the scaler, video/audio outputs, mpeg decoders, etc.

I imagine it'll still take awhile to figure out how to properly utilize all the hardware without documentation, but atleast we'd know where to poke now.

[yacht_boy]

Great news! Thanks for looking into this.

Jason

[ChaosKnight]

If anyone wants to start working on a project, I'd be happy to help do some coding. I'll be looking at the source in the meantime and post anything good here, I would rather work with others so as to minimize duplicate efforts.