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Old 11-14-2005, 06:48 AM
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Playing Sage .ts files in other apps

I know that several of us discovered durring beta that Sage HD recordings will not play through certain Codecs (Nvidia) without using the SageTVDemux.
This was easy enough to remedy.....until the latest update of Purevideo, in which Nvidia locked down the demux that can attach to the decoder and limited it to the Nvidia ...(why?).

Anyone have an update as to when this issue may be fixed ?

Secondly, how does Sage get around this when one is using the Nvidia Decoders ? I know that a custom graph can be created, but wouldnt this have the same limitation if Nvidia has disabled other Demux'es from attaching ?


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Old 11-19-2005, 09:10 AM
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Old 11-19-2005, 01:52 PM
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Not sure what to tell you.

I play .TS files in other apps all the time. Using just the Nvidia codec and demuxer.

I never play .TS recordings in Sage itself, as I usually use my MVP for Sage playback.

The machine I play back the .TS files on doesn't even have Sage installed (and therefore no Sage demux either).

Sorry that doesn't help you, though. Just thought another data point was worth something.

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Old 11-20-2005, 02:21 AM
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Mike, it's not true that Nvidia locked down their decoders to use only their demux. I am using the latest Nvidia non-oem decoders ver.4.02-185 and use it with Elecard Mpeg2 demux.

In SageTV 4.1 beta (or whatever the next beta is), there should be a bug-fix to make the .TS files created by SageTV to be ATSC compliant. Currently, SageTV flavored .TS files are rejected by Nvidia's demux. Elecard's demux will tollerate SageTV .TS files.
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Old 11-20-2005, 06:44 AM
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Not to be contrary, but I currently play Sage .TS files with the newest Nvidia decoder/demux. So not ALL Sage .TS files are rejected.

But I dump my .TS files via firewire, maybe that makes a difference.

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Old 11-20-2005, 08:58 AM
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Mike, it's not true that Nvidia locked down their decoders to use only their demux. I am using the latest Nvidia non-oem decoders ver.4.02-185 and use it with Elecard Mpeg2 demux.

In SageTV 4.1 beta (or whatever the next beta is), there should be a bug-fix to make the .TS files created by SageTV to be ATSC compliant. Currently, SageTV flavored .TS files are rejected by Nvidia's demux. Elecard's demux will tollerate SageTV .TS files.
Its the other way around, they locked down their demux to only work with the NVDVD decoders.
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Old 11-20-2005, 11:23 AM
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Ok, I will have to try it again, maybe something else was happening, I just saw that once I unregistered the the Nvidia Demux, there was an error about not having a filter, and I remembered seeing a release note somewhere about the demux. I guess I got it backwards.

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Old 11-20-2005, 10:16 PM
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mlbdude, oh okay, I misunderstood.

Jason, do you have a graphedit snapshot to prove that you're using Nvidia for both demux and for .TS decoding as well? I would really like to know how you got it to work. Currently, I'm stuck using elecard's demux. This problem was easily reproduced and acknowledged by Frey Technologies about a month ago. Their solution was to use elecard's demux until 3.1 beta.

EDIT: OPPS! I didn't read the part about firewire. That changes everthing. The bug I spoke of was for OTA ATSC recordings via HDTV PC card ONLY.

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Not to be contrary, but I currently play Sage .TS files with the newest Nvidia decoder/demux. So not ALL Sage .TS files are rejected.

But I dump my .TS files via firewire, maybe that makes a difference.

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Old 11-21-2005, 07:59 AM
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Yeah, I should have thought of the OTA vs Firewire in the beginning. Makes sense why they would exhibit different behavior!

Sorry to confuse the issue!

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EDIT: OPPS! I didn't read the part about firewire. That changes everthing. The bug I spoke of was for OTA ATSC recordings via HDTV PC card ONLY.
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