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Old 08-04-2005, 02:06 PM
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Gapless Recording for Consecutive Scheduled Recordings?

Hi,

I often will record The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and sometimes if someone is interesting on Conan O'Brien I'll record it as well. Leno will sometimes run a minute or so long or short depending on the night, and so sometimes the end of one show will get cut off and I'll miss a little when it stops and restarts recording.

Is there a way to tell SageTV to eliminate gaps in recordings if the shows come on right after the other (as you can in BeyondTV)?
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Old 08-04-2005, 02:55 PM
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Hi,

I often will record The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and sometimes if someone is interesting on Conan O'Brien I'll record it as well. Leno will sometimes run a minute or so long or short depending on the night, and so sometimes the end of one show will get cut off and I'll miss a little when it stops and restarts recording.

Is there a way to tell SageTV to eliminate gaps in recordings if the shows come on right after the other (as you can in BeyondTV)?
A manual recording by time the only way I know. You can also pad the start and stop times of individual records to avoid missing early start or end, assuming multiple tuners.
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:19 PM
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Bah. Maybe they'll fix this by version 3.0.
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:05 AM
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What would be nice, is if Sage could have two recordings open at the same time from a single encoder.


So for instance, say you had 1 minute padding on your recordings and consecutive shows on the same channel, Sage could set them up to record off a single encoder and and one could record from 7:59 to 9:01 and the second show record from 8:59 to 10:01. For that 2 minute overlap, 2 separate recordings would be active. Yes, your HD subsystems would need to be up to the task.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:30 AM
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on my system (nothing special configured), the gap between for consecutive recordings on the same channel with no padding is less than half a second...

I guess the problem you have is with overruns... so that the one recording contains part of the other...

The only way I guess you can work around that is with a timed recording...
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Old 08-05-2005, 05:37 AM
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Bah. Maybe they'll fix this by version 3.0.
I'm not sure this is something that is fixable. Sage is paying attention to the TV schedule provided to it from Zap2it which gets its info from the networks, so who's really at fault? Not Sage.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:23 AM
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You're not sure it's fixable? It's not magic - and as I said, SageTV's major competitor, BeyondTV, has this feature (and has had it for two versions/years now).

So obviously it's possible.

Sage doesn't need to do any tv schedule analysis - just notice that when two shows are being recorded one-after-the-other on the same channel that it may be better to not leave a gap (as an option in the setup, of course) or else do what neilm suggests and use the same PVR device tuner to record two files at the same time for, oh, ten seconds or so (just enough for the overlap).

Also, sometimes the gap is closer to two to three seconds on my machine - which is a problem if you're recording a musical performance and want to keep it unsplit.

I read that NBC in particular was letting their shows drift by a minute or two to thwart PVR users. If I can't record these shows using my own recorder (this minute or two difference would mess up VCR recordings too, BTW) then I may have to consider just not watching shows on NBC anymore.

However, the overlap problem happens on other channels, too.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:39 AM
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Don't take this as a dig against anyone here, it's a dig against standalone PVRs

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I read that NBC in particular was letting their shows drift by a minute or two to thwart PVR users.
Ha! Not a problem with multiple tuners 5 minutes of padding and remove_padding_on_back_to_back_favorites=false
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:56 PM
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Yup... That is my solution to this issue.


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Don't take this as a dig against anyone here, it's a dig against standalone PVRs



Ha! Not a problem with multiple tuners 5 minutes of padding and remove_padding_on_back_to_back_favorites=false
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