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Old 06-09-2005, 10:01 PM
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Removing imported videos from search?

I was wondering if there was anyway to remove old imported videos from my wiz.bin? See, when I search for shows, all these videos I imported from way back when I first started using Sage are still there. Its been many, many months since I have had Sage import any videos or music at all, yet these entries have not gone away. I can't find any of them in my "viewing history" are they supposed to be there? Is there any other way to access these entries or remove them? Thanks!

Edit: Sorry, I'm using 2.2.8 and Cayars 18E.
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Old 06-09-2005, 11:47 PM
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there is now way of removing these old titles (nor picture file names, nor music album names). Titles, and people names stay in the DB for ever...
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:49 AM
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Thanks Nielm! I was hoping something had changed to make this possible, since I was finally able to get rid of my 'ghost recording' confict with your excellent plugin (can't express how happy that made me , thanks again!). I guess I'll just live with it, thankfully no video of an 'adult' nature was ever imported into Sage lol . One of these days I'll finally catch up to all my recordings and be able to start from a brand new wiz.bin. One day...

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Old 06-10-2005, 08:53 AM
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I don't suppose sage would be willing to give us the file format for wiz.bin would they? Then we could create our own tools for forcing shows into the recordings list, deleting things, etc...
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:37 PM
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I guess that would be a "no" then...
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Old 06-12-2005, 04:27 AM
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<insert rant that I've given before on how much better open standards are, and how stupid and pointless and small minded closed proprietary encrypted standards are> ... especially with a setup that depends on users to provide a lot of functionality (!!!!) Sage *may* be the best out there. But its a far long long long ways from "everything to everyone" -- there is even a lot of obvious functionality still missing. Anyways. I've never heard an explanation of why the db is closed (and enccrypted?) so I won't speculate or malign motives I dont know about.

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Yes, Kanati, many good things and much convenience could be had if the db was open. In this one area I have to say I disagree heavily with the approach taken so far.
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Old 06-12-2005, 07:35 AM
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Wiz.bin is encrypted?! I did not know that. That seems a serious overkill. I mean whats the point of all that extra protection? Its just my TV viewing crap. Besides advertisers who the heck wants that info? Does the encryption require alot of extra CPU cycles for Sage to operate? I mean its accessing my wiz.bin a ton of times a day. Would removing the encryption produce a file that could be read/manipulated by anything, you think? Boy, talk about learning something new every day. Yeah, I definately agree with you Cnovak!
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Old 06-12-2005, 08:32 AM
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I have posted a plausable explanation several times... It may be related to the fact that listings providers in their licencing agreements often require that the data is not readable outside of the licenced program.
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Does the encryption require alot of extra CPU cycles for Sage to operate? I mean its accessing my wiz.bin a ton of times a day.
Db is held in memory (by both server and clients), and only written to disk occasionally (check that last modified stamp on wiz.bin).
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Would removing the encryption produce a file that could be read/manipulated by anything, you think?
unlikely... The DB engine would have to be re-written to create an accessible file format first, and I doubt that Sage are going to do that in the near future, as their current DB format is well tested and reliable (and their are a load of other PVR related features that most people would consider more important!)
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Old 06-12-2005, 11:07 AM
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Well maybe Sage won't open the DB, but that doesn't mean that they can't give us a front-end to it, right? Wouldn't that give us users what we want without screwing with license agreement.
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:19 AM
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That sounds like a great compromise dvd_maniac! Thanks for the explanation Nielm. I wonder if those of us Sage customers who do not live in the US (XMLTV users) could lobby to get some kind of exclution for the encryption? Humm, though I bought Sage with my sister's US cerdit card so I wonder how I could prove it? Anyway, while the junk in my wiz.bin is irritating, this would not be a high priority for me (much rather see some of the other issues be worked on like getting studio out to the community) unless it could somehow be used to import my Sage stuff into Meedio. Wow, now that would be awsome. Though how would the client side work I don't know but having only front end program is my ultimate HTPC goal (and, just in case, no MCE does not fit my needs ).
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