Any way to Write protect imported Video?

[casperse]

Hi All

I have imported alot of Cartoon stuff, and I would like to protect from deletion, when children are using SageTV.
Any special STV or Modification that does this?

Cheers

[Cayars]

None that I'm aware of, BUT if you don't mind switching to a different STV like the Cayars Ultimate STV I could add the ability in the next release to REMOVE the delete options on any IMPORTED video in a directory with a name like "PROTECTED" or something similar.

Hmm, I actually like this idea. Off to add this...

Carlo

[soulprops77]

In the SageMCE STV there is an option to remove the delete button from the Video Library.

I use to keep it disabled to protect from my dumber than a pile of rocks roommate.

(Post edited to correct my pre-coffee, broken english)

[mdmint]

Originally Posted by soulprops77

I use keep it disabled to protect from my dumber than a pile of rocks roommate.

[Lester Jacobs]

The removal of the delete option is something I like. However the original request points to the larger issue of PVR security. With all the scheduled recordings, imported shows, music files, ripped DVDs, etc sitting on the Sage box, there needs to be a simple security mechanism implemented at the core SageTV level (there's only so much you can do in an STV) so that one can implement protection around certain things. There's nothing worse (ok, slight exaggeration) than having a recorded show you were hoping to see later being accidentally deleted by a guest or kid.

Having the ability to remove the delete option via an STV is great but is a "static" solution. It means everytime I want to delete something I have to remember to go into some setting screen (or option menu) and reenable the delete option. Then I have to subsequently remember to disable the delete option when I'm done before handing control back over to my kids. Security implemented at the core PVR level would "know" the difference between an "adult" and a "kid" and would dynamically enable/disable certain abilities depending on who was currently using the system.

I actually have a fairly good idea for implementing security in a painless manner that would be acceptable to most households (for instance, my wife would object to having passwords everywhere and so my idea reduces the use of passwords to a minimum while still maintaining adequate security).

Cheers
Lester

[Cayars]

I've had the ability to remove the DELETE button in my STV for a long time also, but the way "I read" the request was to allow deletes in general but not for some others which is why I suggested a "Protected" directory.

Lester, my next STV release will most likely be centered around security issues so any info/ideas you have about this would be most welcomed.

Carlo

[ToxMox]

Why not at the OS level just set those files to Read Only?

[Cayars]

They will still be deleted.

[ToxMox]

How about changing the write permission then in the security for the files for the Sage user? This is if the user is running XP/2000

[mdmint]

Originally Posted by Cayars

Lester, my next STV release will most likely be centered around security issues so any info/ideas you have about this would be most welcomed.
Carlo

Seems like a good idea, especially for systems used by kids or anyone unfamiliar with Sage.

Maybe a full function Admin mode that can enable/disable selected configuration functions for user "playback" mode including locking out detailed setup options, adding or deleting Fav's, deleting recordings etc. Personally I wouldn't use it but we don't have kids using our Sage and definitely understand the need! I would also want full function mode to be optional not mandatory password protected so it would fully load on start like it does now if desired.

[Lester Jacobs]

Originally Posted by Cayars

I've had the ability to remove the DELETE button in my STV for a long time also, but the way "I read" the request was to allow deletes in general but not for some others which is why I suggested a "Protected" directory.

Lester, my next STV release will most likely be centered around security issues so any info/ideas you have about this would be most welcomed.

Carlo

I'll put my ideas together in a document and post this week sometime.

Lester

[casperse]

Excellent!

I look forward to testing this feat. which in my opinion would allow children & Guests to use SageTv without me having to worrying about them deleting stuff!

[m1abrams]

Originally Posted by ToxMox

How about changing the write permission then in the security for the files for the Sage user? This is if the user is running XP/2000

This should work and is what I would suggest too, however I am better many of the people out there have Sage running as admin

[Lester Jacobs]

Here's a document outllining my thoughts on a generic security model for SageTV. This covers SageTV security in general and as part of that covers this thread topic as a matter of course.

Feedback welcomed!

Cheers
Lester

[technazz]

Old TIVO user here and I like to keep delete there but add a second dialog box with "Are you sure you want to delete $nameofrecording?" Just to avoid hitting delete by accident by hitting it once.

Technazz

[m1abrams]

Originally Posted by Lester Jacobs

Here's a document outllining my thoughts on a generic security model for SageTV. This covers SageTV security in general and as part of that covers this thread topic as a matter of course.

Feedback welcomed!

Cheers
Lester

Nice write up, however I would probably add a little touch to the security by having "users" and have users assigned a level. This way you can have multiple users at the same level, but be able to have different default "filters" based on the users settings. This way each user can have his/her own view of the recordings, guide, etc. You can also extend so that favourites are attached to the user, and if a user deletes a favourite, but another user also has the same favorite and has not deleted it, then it does not get deleted until ALL users who "own" the recording delete it. But you could add a filter for user a so that the show they deleted does not appear in their recordings list.

Course your write is much better thought through then my above gibberish

[Lester Jacobs]

Originally Posted by m1abrams

Nice write up, however I would probably add a little touch to the security by having "users" and have users assigned a level...

I thought long and hard about adding the concept of users to the model. However, having users does introduce additional complexity from both a programming and end user perspective. I'll give it some more thought and see if I can't add users in such a way as to minimize confusion at the end user level (i.e. I'd have to introduce it in such a way that it could easily be used by a young child. As a parent I wouldn't want to be constantly hassled by my kids because they forgot their password, or because they didn't realize they were logged in as the wrong "user" )

Cheers
Lester

[dagar]

Having it prompt for a PIN to access certain functions (delete, cancel recording, setup functions, etc.) would go a long way