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#1641
11-18-2008, 09:57 AM
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CapDVHS worked perfect upon first install.. I made a simple graph, that worked. the dump.mpg ran fine. I created the TStoPS graph file and put it in the SGR directory. I changed the SGR ini. SGR is starting with windows and I see it running in the taskbar. I had sage and service off during the whole process. I copied the "MMC" lines exactly to the sage.properties. I even went back and double checked the files, but nothing new is showing up in my sage video sources... I did not do anything with channel changing yet, I want to make sure I get the video source in sage, and SGR just isnt showing up as a new video source in sage. Is there something I missed? EDIT: The HD-PVR is looking more and more like the hassle-free way to go... Last edited by pagelmcb; 11-18-2008 at 06:06 PM. Reason: more 
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#1642
11-20-2008, 10:18 AM
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I had an issue with Sage seeing the firewire video source when I was first try to setup firewire.
I had copied the additional entries needed for the sage.properties files from the downloadable PDF file. I found another entry within this thread that also had the addtional lines needed for the sage properties file and used them. I was then able to see the firewire source as an option in SageTv. As much as I like the HD-PVR, it is not without it's own hassles for some users (I need to power cycle mine once a week or I start to miss recordings).
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#1643
11-25-2008, 04:18 PM
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Scifi HD recordings messed up..
Not sure where to post this... Andy.. Feel free to move it to it's own thread.. but this is firewire related..
Just recently my ScifiHD recorded off of firewire are messed up. They used to record just fine but now they are messed up. Other Channels still work.. It just seems to be ScifiHD. The MPEG file seems big enough... and Sage can create the thumbnail.. but I get a playback error. It won't play back in Media player or PowerDVD either but VLC will play it after complaining out it. Any thoughts on how to debug this? Does Sage graphrecorder create the MPEG file from the stream or just pass along what it gets? Is there a (free) tool to analyze the MPEG to see what's messup with it? and a way to fix it? I really miss my SciFi HD shows! 
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#1644
11-25-2008, 04:27 PM
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It happens so rarely for me that I usually just look to see if there will be a rebroadcast.
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#1645
11-25-2008, 07:15 PM
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That pretty much will eliminate that from channel list.
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#1646
11-29-2008, 10:56 PM
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well I got the SGR running and Sage detects the 1394 device but it never brings up any live video for me. I can record via CapDVHS and GraphEdit. Then play them as imported videos on Sage, but Im still missing something in Sage and I cant figure it out...
I copied the sage.properties stuff from the pdf, and did it all without sage and it's service running, but still, a no go. Will Vista-32 make a difference? EDIT: ok, I have it all setup to be able to record and change channels via firewire but watching liveTV is sketchy at best. I keep making progress.... Vista32 Ultimate Q9450 CPU Intel G45 Express Chipset w/ onboard X4500HD DVI-to-HDMI 4Gb Patriot DDr2-800 PCIE 1x firewire card - STB Motorola DCH-3200 Hauppaugge MCE250 Hauppaugge HVR-1600 - w / remote 80GB SATA-II C Drive (For OS) 250GB SATA-II HDD (64k format for recordings) 150GB SATA-II HDD (3 partitions for backups and imported videos) 500GB SATA-II HDD (64k format for HD recordings) DVD-RW SATA Drive Last edited by pagelmcb; 11-30-2008 at 02:57 PM. Reason: additional info
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#1647
12-01-2008, 11:33 AM
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I copied this from POST #78, try this for the sage.properties file stuff instead of what was in the PDF.
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I believe I used the above settings from POST #78 by DFA, and I was then able to see a video source for the Firewire connection. There my even be another post with the sage.properties stuff in it. This thread is bear to read through but holds a lot information for getting a firewire connection setup.
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#1648
12-04-2008, 11:53 PM
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still havin issues...
I also tried posting this in another area because someone was having issues with their files being split into multiple mpegs for each show...
CapDVHS records in a single mpeg but sage does not. I tried changing the "seeker/clear_partials_and_unwanted_when_ir_off=" from true to false but it didnt help. It is splitting my shows up into 5 minutes blocks. This is only happening on my HD recordings via firewire. My 2 analog tuners work fine. Sage Support told me they dont support firewire recording but they gave me a couple suggestions (disable frequent antivirus checks/constant scanning of the drive or try a different hard drive) which I tried. Neither helped. I also made sure my hard drives are in DMA mode (they are set to Ultra DMA mode 5). I am basically at the end of my rope so I currently removed my SGR source. I can still record with CapDVHS via firewire and watch shows with VLS player.. both were free and I have no recording or playback issues.... I just wish I had the convenience of Sage but I end up with recording AND playback issues... Here is a sample of my log when I recorded a show via firewire. there is a recording from 20:00 hours to 21:01. If you can offer any help or suggestions please do.
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#1649
12-07-2008, 08:45 PM
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as a last resort, I think the last thing i want to try is a good muxer and not just run my TS directly into a dump file. Even though the dump mpg runs great in the VLC media player, it doesnt in sage, and typically becomes unsynchronized (audio/video) in the windows media player anytime after I FF. Im thinking if I encode and mux it with some different filters I might be able to get it to run well in the sage player. i just cant find a good muxer....
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#1650
12-15-2008, 04:23 PM
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This is what I've discovered thus far: SageTV is marking the MPEG-2 audio stream as second stream [0xc1]. It should have been marked as first stream [0xc0], because there's no other sound track. Can you check your file with Avicodec? VLC can't play these files. Mediaplayer Classic can however. Video Studio X2 freezes when it tries to save these files (but it can play them with sound while editing). Popcorn Hour (a hardware streaming client by Sayabas) will play these files without sound. It is pretty anoying. I can remux these files: Code:
C:\PROGRA~1\MPLAYER\mencoder "%1.mpg" -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd:tsaf -lavcopts aspect=16/9 -ovc copy -oac copy -o %1_fixed.mp
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#1651
12-17-2008, 02:49 PM
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Horrible delay in thumbnail generation...
Since I'm catching up on all my threads.. I might as well post about something I've been wondering about for a long time..
sometimes my firewire recordings don't quite record right. I'm not sure what the probelm is, but the file doesn't play. But what's worse is when it tries to generate a thumbnail for the show.. I get the spinning circle of death for about a minute or so. It's realy annoying. I guess it's trying to time out?? Is there a way to reduce the timeout? or have it remember that there is no thumbnail and not try to regerate the thumbnail every time I highlight the show or traverse the menu? Jim
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#1652
12-29-2008, 10:37 AM
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It plays fine on the extender !! *pout* I want this to work!!!! 
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#1653
12-30-2008, 10:59 AM
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Somehow a file I transferred off the Comcast DVR has the first few seconds corrupted. VLC plays it, but handbrake and VideoRedo refuse to recognize it as valid. The original is no longer on the box. Any suggestions on what I could try?
Also, I saw where someone posted a link to a USB hub that connected to Ethernet. I've lost that post, but was really wondering if something equivalent existed for firewire. I don't want to move the DVR from the other room.
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#1654
12-31-2008, 12:25 PM
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EDIT: GOT IT WORKING!!! (LAST LINE BELOW)
Ok. I'm trying to get my DCH3200 comcast box channel changing with firewire to record through my HDpvr. I'm having a hardtime to get setup in sagetv. When I do "channelw -f 2 941" It changes to 941. In the instructions I found "channelw -f -a4 2 %channel%" Which I did "channelw -f -a4 2 941" and nothing happened. I don't know what -a4 is but didn't work for me. My 2.ir file has this Quote:
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I'm running windows XP. Don't know what else to add. Any help on troubleshooting is appreciated. EDIT: I had to change to "c:\getHD\channelw.exe -f %DEVICE% %CHANNEL%" without quotes in the reg. I added the -f Last edited by QueOnda; 01-02-2009 at 12:00 AM. Reason: got it working
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#1655
01-06-2009, 09:30 AM
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Okay, I've got the command line channel changing working with "Device ID" ...
channel -n 8a635afeff5c0e00 -a4 700 but then the instructions discuss editing the .properties and .ir files with the "panel device's number". If I want to use the Device UID, do I replace all references to "Device Number" with "Device UID"? in those other files? Thanks, pat----
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#1656
01-14-2009, 08:34 AM
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firewire signal pixalization/artifacts
I've tried to use firewire to view my channels on VLC media player and the signal which is perfect from the STB to the tv is basically unwatchable via firewire.
I had my cable company replace my Samsung box, thinking that could be the problem, but my new box (a SA4250 HD) has the same pixalization/artifact problem when I view it via firewire. It's as if the signal is poor, but it looks fine from the STB to the tv. I even showed it to the cable guy and he checked my signal which is fine to the box so it comes out fine to the tv, but poor on firewire. So is this a problem others have seen and fixed? I wanted to have Sage record in HD, the only other solution I could think of to be able to get the Hauppague HD PVR, but I should not need to spend the $$$ since so many people don't seem to have the poor signal issue via firewire. Thanks for helping me out! Brent
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#1657
01-14-2009, 09:52 AM
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Personally I think the problem is likely in the firewire drivers for Windows. I don't think it has anything to do with signal levels - it is some sort of a bug .
Users of Macs and Linux seem to have much more luck. Don't forget that these drivers are kind of hacked together and are not supported by anybody anywhere and the guy that wrote them, Tim Moore, seems to have abandoned the project. If you know anyone with a Mac see if you can borrow it and try connecting your STB to the Mac.
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01-14-2009, 11:03 AM
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#1659
01-17-2009, 02:31 PM
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I've been trying to get firewire recording working today I've made good progress- I got things working in VLC. But, following que3jxp's instructions (linked from the OP), I get lost when I try adding the tuner into Sage.
I did my best- I added the firewire as tuner. I selected 1394 as the input. I' said I was using an external cable or satellite receiver to tune channel (am I suppose to say this?). Then, I pull up the lineup and add a couple channels that I know I could get in VLC. But, I can't pull up channels. I can't do anything really. When I go into the guide and try to select on the HD channels, I just see the "Tuning Into..." message. I never get any further. It doesn't even change the channel on the receiver. Though, this seems weird. I really thought I got it to change the channel once. It's not doing it anymore. Sorry I'm being so vague. I really don't know what kind of information people need to help me debug this problem.
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#1660
01-19-2009, 11:03 PM
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I solved half of my problem. I was using the wrong format when I added the line to my sage.properties file that fixed a video storage path. Basically, I set it to something that didn't exist. So, I fixed that, readded the source, and added a couple channels I know existed. After that, Sage will tune the HD box to the correct channel.
But, I still have two problems. The big one is that I still don't see anything in Sage when I try to watch one of those channels. I just get a black screen. This happens both on my server and when I try to watch things on my extender. I know a file is getting created- I can see and play back (in VLC) the recording video file that ends up in my recordings directory. But, I can't play it back in Sage. The second problem is mostly with the EPG, I think. When I add a channel, Sage correctly identifies it as, for instance, USAHD. But, it doesn't seem to be able to pull up guide data for it. I thought that worst case scenario I could at least remap it to the regular standard-def USA version. So, I tried that, but then it automatically combined the HD version of the channel in the program guide with the standard def versions. I really want to keep the HD version separate, because I use an MVP and I want to be able to pull up the standard def version of these channels on the MVP. Is there a way to keep them separate? Should I be able to get guide data for, e.g., USAHD?
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