STV Import: Weather Report Suite Discussion/Support

[nielm]

quite probably -- I need to update all of my modules with the new shadowing styles in 3.0.7

[srothwell]

Originally Posted by nielm

quite probably -- I need to update all of my modules with the new shadowing styles in 3.0.7

When you make the shadow change, any chance you could add that little piece of code for WRS that lets you tell it to re-read the xml file so Sage doesn't have to be shut down when a change is made?

[salsbst]

I don't know that that is a little change. WRS runs in a background thread.

EDIT: I guess little is a relative term, though!

[nielm]

The fix that cayars had in his STV was not a very good one... Each time you re-read the XML file, Sage would start up a new WRS instance, which would mean that you would have multiple threads running, downloading images, etc.

[srothwell]

Originally Posted by nielm

The fix that cayars had in his STV was not a very good one... Each time you re-read the XML file, Sage would start up a new WRS instance, which would mean that you would have multiple threads running, downloading images, etc.

OOOhhhhhhhhh......... Oh well. Understood.

[salsbst]

It's not impossible to do it. It's something that I've planned to do in the future.

I was just getting my development workstation settled and ready to dive back in to coding (after a hard drive failure) when I fouled up the registry while trying to hack my way into QAM recording, so it won't happen any time soon by me.

BTW, if anyone out there ever thinks they'll restore a ghosted image of a domain controller, don't do it!

[RedCoat999]

Been using this with SageMC. How do you control how often it gets the weather info? For example, I checked the local current conditions last night, and the last update time displayed was just then. But this morning, checked the current conditions again, and the last update time was last night.
Thanks

[salsbst]

For the forecast/conditions from weather.com, it is the attribute weatherSourceMaxAge="0.25" in the root element. This says that the weather.com info must be retrieved every 15 mintes (one quarter of an hour).

For image/animation views, it is the maxage="0.25" attribute in the view element. Same interpretation.

Please note two issues:

a) there are configuration options which can cause WRS to not prefetch images before it is first launch and to cause WRS not to keep images updated while it is not displayed. If you have the latter set, then that may explain the issue

b) it is possible that one or more of the WRS background updater threads hung. I kind of doubt this because I revamped the downloading process to avoid background thread hangs due to bad HTTP situations, but I can't say that thread hanging is impossible.

[RedCoat999]

I checked and all the "maxage" properties are set to 0.25. In order for me to get the latest I have to switch locations most of the time. As soon as I have done that the weather is updated.

[klaberte]

On the bottom of my local conditions, I get text that says:

Weather data provided by Weather.com [garbage text]

where [garbage text] is a series of "A" with a tilde above, followed by a box, i.e.

A_tilde BOX A_tilde BOX

Why is there this garbage text? Can I remove it?

It shows up on other pages, such as Sponsored links.

I'm guessing I don't have the proper font installed. Suggestions? Can I just remove this commercial all together?

Thanks!

[nielm]

I have seen it before, but you cannot get rid of it... it is related to the use of the copyright symbol... in the 3.0 version I have corrected the import stv toi use (c)

[salsbst]

Originally Posted by RedCoat999

I checked and all the "maxage" properties are set to 0.25. In order for me to get the latest I have to switch locations most of the time. As soon as I have done that the weather is updated.

Strange. I would think that just navigating away from the conditions or forecast views and then back again would do the trick.

(The values won't change if you just stare at them for a 1/4 hour -- that's the watched pot feature.)

[mightyt]

Interesting difference ....

I have had my Sage Client, which is v.2.0.20 with Nielm's v.1.8 STV and Salsbst WRS set up perfectly ... I had customized WRS to include Traffic and set up my button selections to my liking.

I am building a new server and have install Sage 2.2.8 with Cayers Ultimate 18e STV which also includes WRS. I copied my "weathercondig.xml" file over to instantly gain my custom WRS and everything is again perfect ... except for one little thing ...

No sure why this difference appears, but on my 2.0.20 Client the left buttons and top buttons all have consistent font sizes and essentially word wrap, however on my 2.2.8 server with the same weatherconfig.xml file the top buttons are fine, but the left buttons don't word wrap and shrink in size??

I know that on the normal Dynamic Menus text will shrink unless you add the following to your menu.xml (or in this case cayers-menu.xml) ...

<option>dontscaleitems</option>

I've added that and it worked as expected on the Dynamic Menus, but the WRS buttons on the left remain the same.

Any reason why it would act differently on 2 different systems with the same weatherconfig.xml file???

Thanks, T.

[salsbst]

Originally Posted by mightyt

Interesting difference ....

I have had my Sage Client, which is v.2.0.20 with Nielm's v.1.8 STV and Salsbst WRS set up perfectly ... I had customized WRS to include Traffic and set up my button selections to my liking.

I am building a new server and have install Sage 2.2.8 with Cayers Ultimate 18e STV which also includes WRS. I copied my "weathercondig.xml" file over to instantly gain my custom WRS and everything is again perfect ... except for one little thing ...

No sure why this difference appears, but on my 2.0.20 Client the left buttons and top buttons all have consistent font sizes and essentially word wrap, however on my 2.2.8 server with the same weatherconfig.xml file the top buttons are fine, but the left buttons don't word wrap and shrink in size??

I know that on the normal Dynamic Menus text will shrink unless you add the following to your menu.xml (or in this case cayers-menu.xml) ...

<option>dontscaleitems</option>

I've added that and it worked as expected on the Dynamic Menus, but the WRS buttons on the left remain the same.

Any reason why it would act differently on 2 different systems with the same weatherconfig.xml file???

Thanks, T.

FYI, WRS doesn't pay any attention to the Dynamic Menus settings.

I think that either neilm (in the import module) or Cayars (in his STV) may have changed the behavior of this. IIRC, the original design was constant-size (the way I happen to like it), but I think some folks wanted the dynamic sizing.

[mightyt]

Originally Posted by salsbst

FYI, WRS doesn't pay any attention to the Dynamic Menus settings.

I think that either neilm (in the import module) or Cayars (in his STV) may have changed the behavior of this. IIRC, the original design was constant-size (the way I happen to like it), but I think some folks wanted the dynamic sizing.

Thanks Salsbst!!! Yea, I like it that way as well ...

I know Cayers is still recovering, so maybe Crashless or Nielm can give me a clue it they added dynalmic sizing and if it can be turned off ... Nielm gave us the option in Dynamic Menus, so who knows!!

T.

[mightyt]

Bump ....

Crashless?

Nielm?

Any thoughts?

Thanks, T.

[mightyt]

Double Bump ...

Anyone else have any ideas???

[salsbst]

mightyt, if you post your STV, I'll make the change to it.

[mightyt]

Originally Posted by salsbst

mightyt, if you post your STV, I'll make the change to it.

THANKS! Salsbst ... You are OK!

Do you mean the .XML file or the actual .STV I am usig?

T.

[salsbst]

The STV.