MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[x[corwyn]]

Originally Posted by fidget

I was just playing with my MVP and I noticed something bad. Unlike the normal Sage client, the MVP client is brought to its knees if you perform a file transfer while watching a program. I applied the TCP/IP optimization registry settings from the Hauppauge site (and rebooted), but copying a file from that machine will render the TV unwatchable (pauses, etc.). Even adjusting the priority of the client to High does not solve the problem.

Is anyone else seeing this problem? Does anyone know how I can adjust the Quality of Service (QoS) on the MediaMVP so its network traffic can have a higher priority than a file copy?

Actually this is something I was thinking about the other day. I have a quad 10/100 card and was thinking of setting it up so that the MVP had a dedicated port/ip address on the server and if with multiple MVPs that I could have it so that each one had a dedicated Port/IP address. Workable?

[AndyS]

Originally Posted by x[corwyn]

Actually this is something I was thinking about the other day. I have a quad 10/100 card and was thinking of setting it up so that the MVP had a dedicated port/ip address on the server and if with multiple MVPs that I could have it so that each one had a dedicated Port/IP address. Workable?

1. I have more than one network card. How can I configure the IP address the MVP Client uses?

First, to check which IP address the MVP Client is using, have a look at the mvp\mvp_0.log file and search for "Listen on" messages containing the IP address. To explicitly use an IP address, shutdown the MVP Client and add the IP address to the MVPBaseServers.host and MVPClientServers.host entries in mvp\mvp.properties (these entries are commented out by default).


Andy.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by kevthor

I followed the instructions to a tee to run the MVP as a client. However when I power on my MVP it just sits at "Contacting MediaMVP Boot Server..."

Is there a step I missed?

**EDIT** I have now found that it looks like my MVP is not receiving an IP address as my DHCP clients table doesn't show it at all. I am getting link lights and I have tried a new port on my router that I know works. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks

**EDIT-2** I got it to work. Here were my problems, 1: I had to install the Hauppuage software. Once I did that it connected fine to the Hauppauge MVP software. I then stopped the Hauppauge's MVP processes, Ran Sageclient and fired on the MVP again. It's now working fine.

I have this same problem of the MVP saying "Contacting MediaMVP Boot Server..."

Does anyone know if you HAVE to use DHCP? All my IPs are static and I'd like to keep it that way.

Thanks...

[JasonJoel]

I believe you HAVE to have a DHCP server.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by Brian

I have this same problem of the MVP saying "Contacting MediaMVP Boot Server..."

Does anyone know if you HAVE to use DHCP? All my IPs are static and I'd like to keep it that way.

Thanks...

[JasonJoel]

I think you are a little mistaken.

The MediaMVP doesn't work in/with the client computer - it completely replaces it. It is a client machine all by itself, connecting to the server PC that runs the connection software.

So if you are simply looking for something to offload the decoding on your EPIA box, this is not the product you want. Unfortunately I don't think there is ANY product that will do what you want and NOT use a PCI slot.

The one most people use is the Hauppauge PVR-350, as it has hardware decode. However it comes with its own issues, and I'm 99% sure will not work with MAME (or any other windows application outside of Sage). It will only show the Sage program and video out its SVIDEO connection to the TV. It won't show windows desktop, other windows apps, etc.

Hope that helps.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by pbennington

hi I currently have an epia m10000 hooked directly up to my tv with a pvr250 while the picture quality is good it's not perfect, probably down to the software decoders and spped of processor, I have been looking for a hardware decoder that doesn't use pci as the epia only has one slot, would the mvp be the solution as I believe it does the decoding? is the picture quality likely to be better? Currenlty th eepia runs at about 40% - 60% when software decoding, would this be reduced as, as I understand it sage wouldn't be doing the much, the pvr 250 would encode and the mvp would decode, is this correct? Can the mvp handle mame etc or not?

[Crashless]

The 350 doesn't output anything but Sage. That said, it has by far the best PQ I've been able to get out of my SD set. Not to mention the great 5% cpu usage during live TV.

There is the drawback of deminished stability though. It has been getting better with new drivers, but it still isn't rock solid - at least on my system. There are a few who have rock solid systems, but I haven't been able to replicate their setups, so I can't figure out what the key is yet.

[pbennington]

The MediaMVP doesn't work in/with the client computer - it completely replaces it. It is a client machine all by itself, connecting to the server PC that runs the connection software.

but i could use it with my epia, as a hardware decoder all be it without the windows programs and mame etc, in order to gain better picture quality than the on board tv out gives me? does the mvp also decode the audio, making the soundcard in the server redundant?

[Crashless]

You could use it in conjunction with your epia as a dedicated Sage output, then put the video out from your vid card into another input on the TV, and switch between the two depending on what you want to do. You'll need a crossover cable if you want to connect the MVP directly to the server though (and you'll be limited to 10mbps), unless you use a hub.

This is definitly do-able. Common, no. Do-able, yes.

[pbennington]

so are cross over cables limited to 10mbps, will this cause stuttering? are you saying that if i get a hub connect my 10/100 port to the hub plug the mvp into the hub this will be quicker, i'm not really up on network issues?

[Crashless]

It depends on a couple of things. Do you have a network already, or is your epia the only thing connected to your broadband connection? If you have a router already, like a linksys or something, that all you need to do is plug the MVP into that. If not, then you have to setup internet sharing on your server and either use a cheap hub, or a crossover cable.

I believe all crossover cables are limited to 10mbps, and it's a result of the protocol being limited on direct connections. I've never used the mvp at 10mbps, so I can only guess, you 'should' be fine. The max mpeg2 stream is 9mbps or something, so you just might make it with a more conservative recording quality.

[mls]

Originally Posted by Crashless

I believe all crossover cables are limited to 10mbps, and it's a result of the protocol being limited on direct connections.

Nope. Only diff between a straight and a crossover cable is the receive and transmit lines are reversed on the pins on one end. If it's good CAT5 cable it will run at whatever speed the devices it connects can operate at. If the MVP and the Network card are both 10/100 (and nothing else set to not do otherwise) it should run at 100.

Also, I don't think you should need a crossover cable to hook up the MVP. Crossover cables are used when connecting 2 computers directly to each other, or when connecting Hubs or Switches to each other (if they don't have an up-link port, which just does the crossover internally instead so a straight cable could be used).

[Matt]

Originally Posted by mls

If the MVP and the Network card are both 10/100 (and nothing else set to not do otherwise) it should run at 100.

As far as I know the MVP only has a 10Mbps network interface.

-Matt

[mcragoe]

Originally Posted by mls

Also, I don't think you should need a crossover cable to hook up the MVP. Crossover cables are used when connecting 2 computers directly to each other, or when connecting Hubs or Switches to each other (if they don't have an up-link port, which just does the crossover internally instead so a straight cable could be used).

mls, you would need a crossover cable. Here is the information from Hauppauge:

How can the MediaMVP be connected to the PC or Network:

The MediaMVP can be connected to the PC either directly, using a crossover cable, or through a network by connecting it to a Hub, Switch or Router using a straight through cable.



http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/faq/s...ediamvp.html#8

Mike

[mls]

Ya, you're right. I forgot the MVP is wired internally to be connected to a hub, switch, or router, so it would need a crossover to directly connect to a computer.

[krutaw]

Originally Posted by x[corwyn]

Actually this is something I was thinking about the other day. I have a quad 10/100 card and was thinking of setting it up so that the MVP had a dedicated port/ip address on the server and if with multiple MVPs that I could have it so that each one had a dedicated Port/IP address. Workable?

Actually, if that's the case, I would setup adapter teaming between the four cards so that you've got absolute optimal throughput. That's assuming of course that the cards support that.

[x[corwyn]]

Originally Posted by JasonJoel

I think you are a little mistaken.

The MediaMVP doesn't work in/with the client computer - it completely replaces it. It is a client machine all by itself, connecting to the server PC that runs the connection software.

So if you are simply looking for something to offload the decoding on your EPIA box, this is not the product you want. Unfortunately I don't think there is ANY product that will do what you want and NOT use a PCI slot.

The one most people use is the Hauppauge PVR-350, as it has hardware decode. However it comes with its own issues, and I'm 99% sure will not work with MAME (or any other windows application outside of Sage). It will only show the Sage program and video out its SVIDEO connection to the TV. It won't show windows desktop, other windows apps, etc.

Hope that helps.

Jason Bottjen

xCard would be perfect as soon as they have that OSD situation ironed out on it. It can do everything and with Jove player can also output all the other fun stuff.

[Stuntman]

I'm thinking of getting a Media MVP for myself for Christmas.. problem is I don't have Ethernet at the location I need it at! I am thinking about getting a Linksys WET54G Ethernet to Wireless G adapter so I can join it to my Wireless G network in the house... the adapter would be about 30 feet from the wireless router.. anybody see any reason why this wouldn't work? Has anybody tried such a thing?

Thanks!

[AndyS]

Shouldn't be a problem unless you're throwing lots of other wireless traffic on that router. I've been able to run full-screen video on a laptop using a B connection with no breakups so you should be in good shape with a G connection.

Andy.

[IKK]

I am using a netgear wireless G system. The way I have it set up, is my hub is located in the office on the second floor my sage is connected with a wireless usb g hub downstairs. I am running a ethernet cable from my office hub to the bedroom tv on the second floor. I am having issues with pausing or studdering evey once an a while on the bedroom MVP client. Can anyone tell me if they have or had the same issues and what to tried to fix it. Maybe new Codec(I am using Power DVD) Its not constant I may watch something for 20 min and then it happens.

[pbennington]

hi
I hav enow bit the bullet and bought an mvp I can get the hauppauge software working but am having troublt with the sage mvp.

I am running sage as a service have installed the mvp client into my sage tv directory ( after backing it up) start sagetv.exe but the mvp won't connect I am getting bind errors, which when looking at the trouble shoot suggest ports in use but i'm not sure how to fix it can any onen point me in the right direction the errors are as follows

Thu 11/11 20:40:03:405 12 SEVERE BootpServer.run: exception in receive loop
java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: no further information
at sun.nio.ch.DatagramChannelImpl.send0(Native Method)
at sun.nio.ch.DatagramChannelImpl.sendFromNativeBuffer(Unknown Source)
at sun.nio.ch.DatagramChannelImpl.send(Unknown Source)
at sun.nio.ch.DatagramChannelImpl.send(Unknown Source)
at ch.streams.mvp.bootp.BootpServer.run(BootpServer.java:64)
at ch.streams.mvp.AbstractServer$1.run(AbstractServer.java:121)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)


thanks