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Old 10-20-2004, 07:47 AM
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Galaxy nVIDIA 6800GT

Just updated to one of these bad boys!!

It has resolved most of the issues that I had with my previous card (PNY 'Verto' Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4800)

I now don't get anything like the burriness that I used to get at the corners of my SDTV. The colours are sharp and vibrant aswell. Picture quality seems so much better than the old card.

I'm using the nVIDIA codecs that come with Theatertek 2.

I thought that it would be noisy as hell as there is a huge 1PCI slot fan on the thing, but I can't really hear it at all

Generally a good card so far.

I'm sure it's gonna look great on a decent plasma/LCD when I get araound to purchasing one!!
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Old 10-20-2004, 08:29 AM
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I just got my Gigabyte 6800 Monday, it's fanless and seems to be working good. We'll see how it works once I get my breakout cable and can install it in my HTPC and hook it to my HDTV
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Old 10-20-2004, 08:31 AM
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Sweet!
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Old 10-21-2004, 06:39 AM
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Stanger, what's the deal with the 6000 series from Nvidia? I think I read on AVS Forum that the 6800 didn't have certain hardware optimizations (deinterlacing, maybe?) enabled that the 6600 did. Of course, 6600 is only PCIe at the moment, so that does me no good.

My poor 9200SE is quivering in a corner just thinking about VMR9 (since it's only a DX8 card) and I've read good things about Nvidia for HTPC. If they have a fanless 6600 AGP (and Sage gives me a reason to move to 2.0 - HDTV!) in the near future, would that card be able to push HD, DVD, Live TV, etc. through VMR9 and not choke?

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Old 10-21-2004, 08:54 AM
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I recall from AVS that NVIDIA boards had issue with DVI out interlacing though I could be wrong.
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Old 10-21-2004, 09:23 AM
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That could be a problem, since I'm running DVI to my XBR. Any specifics on the DVI interlacing issues? Was it based on drivers or a specific card series?
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Old 10-21-2004, 09:24 AM
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I don't remember, sorry. I run ATI boards so I can't test it
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Old 10-21-2004, 11:01 AM
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Stanger, what's the deal with the 6000 series from Nvidia? I think I read on AVS Forum that the 6800 didn't have certain hardware optimizations (deinterlacing, maybe?) enabled that the 6600 did. Of course, 6600 is only PCIe at the moment, so that does me no good.
It's the VPU, which as I understand it, is the thing that's supposed to allow Hardware accellerated WM9, video encoding, etc. I don't "think" it affects standard MPEG2 DXVA, but I haven't really tested it.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:08 PM
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So, the 6600 has this enhanced VPU dealie and the 6800 doesn't? Seems odd....

Let me know your thoughts when you have time to fully eval the 6800. I'd like to run a 6600 GT AGP passively cooled (when available) or the Gigabyte 6800 as my next video card for HTPC. I'd probably be running either Sonic or NVDVD 4.0 decoders via DVI to my Sony XBR.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:58 PM
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The 6800 does, but apparently it's broken. The 6700 (new rev of the 6800) supposedly has it fixed.
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Old 10-25-2004, 07:21 AM
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£300+

So that's a £300+ graphics card for your PVR!?!?!?! Yowzers.

I run VMR9, 3D enabled with NVDVD decoders on the TV-Out of my FX GeForce 3 64Mb Card. The picture on my SDTV is ok for programmes without fast pictures, but footie is rubbish. From your experience, do you think forking out £300 gives you £300 worth of improvement. If that makes sense.

I guess if I do buy a 6800 and there is little improvement with my PVR, I could always stick it into my games PC...
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Old 10-25-2004, 07:54 AM
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So that's a £300+ graphics card for your PVR!?!?!?! Yowzers.

I run VMR9, 3D enabled with NVDVD decoders on the TV-Out of my FX GeForce 3 64Mb Card. The picture on my SDTV is ok for programmes without fast pictures, but footie is rubbish. From your experience, do you think forking out £300 gives you £300 worth of improvement. If that makes sense.

I guess if I do buy a 6800 and there is little improvement with my PVR, I could always stick it into my games PC...
I don't think that there is £300 worth of improvement. I still get the blurriness when things move across the screen (not watched a footie match on the card yet, but I imagine that it will be a little blurry)

so, in general I would say not to bother with a 6800 over say a 5700.
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:10 AM
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I'd agree with that, if you're running S-Video (SD, Scart, whatever) you can probably get at least 90% of the improvement with 5700. However if you are planning to upgrade your PC anyway, the 6600s are an awesome value, by accounts I've read they are as good or possibly better than the 6800s but for about half the price (<$200). The only problem is they are currently only PCIe. I probably would have picked up a 6600GT if I had a PCIe board or if I were getting a PCIe board.
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:37 PM
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3,000 posts, good job.



No familiar with PCIe. I guess PCIe is different to AGP??
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Old 10-25-2004, 01:16 PM
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PCIe = PCI Express

3000 posts oops, I ruined it now
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Old 10-26-2004, 02:33 PM
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I thinking of upgrading to the 6600, but need an AGP, which are supposed to be out in mid November. I contacted Prolink and they said the 6600 supports component out, and I see on newegg the PCIe versions have an adapter cable, but am not quite sure what "supports component out" means.

Do you think it means that the only difference from a breakout cable is that the signal will sync on green, not needing the horizontal or vertical plugs?
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Old 10-26-2004, 04:22 PM
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No, they mean YPbPr component out.
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Old 10-27-2004, 08:33 AM
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Talking revised my opinion!

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I don't think that there is £300 worth of improvement. I still get the blurriness when things move across the screen (not watched a footie match on the card yet, but I imagine that it will be a little blurry)

so, in general I would say not to bother with a 6800 over say a 5700.
I have just set my decoder to 'NVIDIA video decoder' as opposed to the 'NVIDIA video post processor' which is what I had it set on before. I have to say that the image is superb! It has totally (I think) fixed the blurriness that I used to get. I can now see writing that scrolls across the bottom of the screen - woohoo.

Take a look at the screen-grab pic.

I have just looked at the image on my normal PC, and it looks a bit rubbish. It looked much better on my TV.
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Old 10-27-2004, 10:56 AM
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I have just set my decoder to 'NVIDIA video decoder' as opposed to the 'NVIDIA video post processor' which is what I had it set on before. I have to say that the image is superb! It has totally (I think) fixed the blurriness that I used to get. I can now see writing that scrolls across the bottom of the screen - woohoo.
Yeah, I think the DXVA deinterlacing on the 6800 is better than the software deinterlacing in the decoders. Not much of a surprise since the 6800 is way faster at that type of thing than any CPU is.

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Take a look at the screen-grab pic.

I have just looked at the image on my normal PC, and it looks a bit rubbish. It looked much better on my TV.
It always does
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Old 10-27-2004, 08:16 PM
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posted this also in the Nvidia DVD decoder topic but 6800 for 249.99 PNY

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...100&pfp=BROWSE
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