SageTV 2.1 thoughts

[nielm]

Originally Posted by kny3twalker

overlay no longer has blue backgrounds

Overlay color keying is enabed by default in this release (Detailed setup->Advanced)[/QUOTE]

[JasonJoel]

I think I will post this as a separate thread as well...

To fix this edit the SAGETV.INI file in the remote wonder software directory. For me this directory was:
C:\PROGRAM FILES\ATI MULTIMEDIA\REMCTRL\PLUG-INS

Search for:
SageTvWinClass=sage.d

Change it to:
SageTvWinClass=sage.s

Close and save the file. Close and restart the ATI Remote Wonder software. Everything should work fine after that.

Jason Bottjen

Originally Posted by mls

Tried the new 2.1 Client on the machine I was using as a client with an ATI remote. Something is royally messed up there since the ATI plug-in worked fine with 2.0, but with 2.1 half the buttons don't work right (or at all).

[edbmdave]

Originally Posted by JasonJoel

I did. However, I had to add the port to my firewall in WinXP SP2... I already had it opened for the sage program, however if you are now using the service it isn't the same EXE so the firewall opening doesn't happen...

So I opened up the port explicitly on the server, and everything is great.

Might be something to check.

Jason Bottjen

Adding it to the Windows Firewall Fixed it. It does seem like the client takes about 50% longer to load that it did under 2.0.

[kny3twalker]

Overlay color keying is enabed by default in this release (Detailed setup->Advanced)

really cause mine just used my old settings

are you sure ?
I did not do a clean install

[Opus4]

An upgrade install will use your old settings; a new install will use the default settings.

- Andy

[kny3twalker]

well I did not know it was default
but that does not mean the blue backgrounds should be ditched for overlay, does it ?

[mikejaner]

I found if you set the rendering to Default, the blue backgrounds come back on Overlay

[edbmdave]

The Aspect Ratio Mode does not change anything. It appears that what every is being played is displayed in the source aspect ratio, ignoring the settings of the Aspect Ratio Mode. I really like the Fill mode. I think this needs to get fixed and I will be using default mode on all my clients except my high end (which I run VMR9).

[Lucas]

ukmgranger ,

I have the same problem with black and white and sound distortion.
The terrestrial channels are OK though. It looks like SageTV tries to process the composite input signal as NTSC rather than PAL that we use here in Europe.

[kny3twalker]

I found if you set the rendering to Default, the blue backgrounds come back on Overlay

thats VMR7 Mike
but it looks much better than before

[ukmgranger]

Lucas,
I think you are on to something there!
I should of thuoght about the NTSC thing.

Do you know of a way to change it, or is it for Frey to sort?

[nielm]

Originally Posted by kny3twalker

overlay no longer has blue backgrounds

Re-visiting this question...
Overlay with colour keying=disabled gives some problems for me with only partial backgrounds being shown (which looks horrible) (see attached screenshots with re-coloured backgrounds)... I thought it was just a problem with my DirectX getting messed up, and needing a windows reinstall, because nobody else was seeing it...

Is this what you are seeing?


(Mike, 'Default'=Overlay on all windows versions except WinXp... On XP, 'Default'=VMR7, which is probably why it looks different... Unfortunately my system is Win2k, and I can't run VMR9!)

[kny3twalker]

the first one is cause they removed the blue grounds for overlay
like mike said you can still get the blue backgrounds but only with VMR7 "default render"
and of course the transparent blue ones with VMR9

they just need to put them back in
at least I hope they will
it is really hard to read with clear backgrounds
and VMR9 is too hard on most of our computers
VMR7 is much better but overlay is so much sharper still and the only difference is now you cannot get the blue background for the menus

so you get no VMR7 at all nielm?
thats weird you can do VMR9, just not well not enough yet VMR7 which would run fine
you cannot do
how weak

and yes I see the same thing for when it is disabled with overlay rendering

[Lucas]

ukmgranger,

only had 2.1 running for 30mins before going to work this morning. I reverted back 2.0.20.

I took a look in the properties files but couldnt see anything amiss.
country code etc were proper.

So, I guess, since colour is OK with tv tuner channels, that it is a bug.
In the US they wouldn't have noticed because of NTSC.
I would have thought that some european users would have already tested the closed group betas.

Then again I may be wrong and it maybe a simple config change..........

[nielm]

Originally Posted by kny3twalker

the first one is cause they removed the blue grounds for overlay... and yes I see the same thing for when it is disabled with overlay rendering

They didn't remove them... it is a bug, which I thought was isolated to my system... You can see that some of the borders and backgrounds are still there behind some of the text...

so you get no VMR7 at all nielm?
thats weird you can do VMR9, just not well not enough yet VMR7 which would run fine

Nope... I am running Win2K on a Via EPIA M10000. so VMR7 is not available and my system does not have the grunt to do VMR9 at anything more than 5fps!

[heffe2001]

I'm also using a EPIA M10000, and have the same overlay bug. I didn't try any of the changes here yet to see if I can get them back, since the machine is at home (and for some reason today I can't get to it with VNC). Mine's running a stripped down version of XP, but if I choose VMR9, I get a video error when I try to use livetv or something recorded.

I like the fact the the UI and the recording capabilities of the server have been seperated, I don't have to worry as much about the kiddies crashing the system (at least I hope not).

[nielm]

Originally Posted by heffe2001

I'm also using a EPIA M10000 ... but if I choose VMR9, I get a video error when I try to use livetv or something recorded..

Just FYI: This will probably be because you are using a hardware accellerated MPEG2 decoder -- the M10000 can only do accellerated decoding with the overlay renderer -- or a decoder that is not compatible with VMR9.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Lucas

ukmgranger ,

I have the same problem with black and white and sound distortion.
The terrestrial channels are OK though. It looks like SageTV tries to process the composite input signal as NTSC rather than PAL that we use here in Europe.

To switch to PAL you have to set:

mmc/video_format_code=8

Not sure if this helps with your problems though.

-Matt

[remmy925]

Been following this post here. I have been without my PC for the past week but am going to get it back Saturday. I intend to upgrade to the newer version of Sage and want to know if anyone has any advise on preperation before I do this. Any problems with it and the Neilm STV? Any known problems with it and any versions of Java? Any problems so far with certain hardware? Inquiring minds wanna know.

[edbmdave]

Has anyone else seen this? DrDivx (1.06) will not encode (either batch or foreground) on the same machine if SageTV is running as a service. It immediately fails, no error code.

I have no problems running it on a SageTV Client box.