wizbin corruption?

[tvmaster2]

If your wizbin is corrupted, can it just deleted? What is the correct process, if possible, to create a new wizbin and find all your recordings?

[SHS]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

If your wizbin is corrupted, can it just deleted? What is the correct process, if possible, to create a new wizbin and find all your recordings?

Stop SageTV Del both wiz restart SageTV
Under Setting under Advanced click on Rescan Existing Library and get EPG just enable a new channel wait 5 min then disable that all you should need to do.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by SHS

Stop SageTV Del both wiz restart SageTV
Under Setting under Advanced click on Rescan Existing Library and get EPG just enable a new channel wait 5 min then disable that all you should need to do.

Okay, thanks. If Schedule's Direct is having problems, and my listings are already loaded, then it would be best to wait until they fix their issue first?

[peternm22]

How do you know that your wiz.bin is corrupted? If you delete it and start over, all of your watch history will be gone.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

Okay, thanks. If Schedule's Direct is having problems, and my listings are already loaded, then it would be best to wait until they fix their issue first?

Yes that would be good idea
P.S. I just check my SageTV logs and Schedule's Direct is not working here to

Originally Posted by peternm22

How do you know that your wiz.bin is corrupted? If you delete it and start over, all of your watch history will be gone.

That true everything will be gone

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by peternm22

How do you know that your wiz.bin is corrupted? If you delete it and start over, all of your watch history will be gone.

Watch history? Is that important? The check box beside each program? I'd be more concerned if the record date info was trashed, aka for sorting order. Any idea about that?

My concern about it being corrupted is the way my system has been acting lately - just a hunch that I haven't been able to pin down on any other thing so far. Drives all check out, ram checks out, etc. But strange spinning circles that sometimes crash the system, sometimes don't, sometimes spin for three minutes and then the show starts - odd stuff

[peternm22]

Watch history is important if you use favorites. It tells SageTV you've aleady watched something so it won't record it again.

If you want to try a new wiz.bin to see if it fixes your problems, make a backup of your current one. If it doesn't fix the problems, you can just restore your old wiz.bin.

It sounds like a hardware problem to me though.

[JustFred]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

My concern about it being corrupted is the way my system has been acting lately - just a hunch that I haven't been able to pin down on any other thing so far. Drives all check out, ram checks out, etc. But strange spinning circles that sometimes crash the system, sometimes don't, sometimes spin for three minutes and then the show starts - odd stuff

Have a look at Sage's System Info screen and post what's being reported for JVM Heap Size (Used/Total/Max). If the info in your sig accurate, I'm *almost* willing to bet a roll of toilet paper that I can guess the reason for the crashes

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by peternm22

Watch history is important if you use favorites. It tells SageTV you've aleady watched something so it won't record it again.

If you want to try a new wiz.bin to see if it fixes your problems, make a backup of your current one. If it doesn't fix the problems, you can just restore your old wiz.bin.

It sounds like a hardware problem to me though.

ok, thanks. I don’t have more than four or five favs, so I can just reprogram those, but good idea about the copy

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by JustFred

Have a look at Sage's System Info screen and post what's being reported for JVM Heap Size (Used/Total/Max). If the info in your sig accurate, I'm *almost* willing to bet a roll of toilet paper that I can guess the reason for the crashes

The only things different from my signature are SageTV 9, 4 gigs ram, and no more Seagate drives. Guess I should update this. My JVM Heap Size after a clean re-boot? What are you thinking?
After a reboot, it reads: (used/total/max) 485mb/625mb/779mb

[JustFred]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

The only things different from my signature are SageTV 9, 4 gigs ram, and no more Seagate drives. Guess I should update this. My JVM Heap Size after a clean re-boot? What are you thinking?
After a reboot, it reads: (used/total/max) 485mb/625mb/779mb

Given your other posts in various threads, I'm thinking the most likely cause of spinning circles is insufficient memory. Exactly which version of Sage is running? v9.1.10 and newer used more memory than older versions.

The values posted indicate that Sage already peaked at 625 MB of usage, right after reboot. Not much headroom before it maxes out the 779 MB. Got a handful of plugins installed? Any plugins which run periodically can quickly eat a bunch of memory. When extender(s) connect, *they* also consume memory. It gets used pretty quickly.

You might try increasing the max Java heap size from 300h (779 MB) to 400h (1038 MB). Of course, this assumes Windows even has enough memory space to do so. It depends on how many other Windows apps are also running. Don't forget other periodic programs will run, too (disk defragmenting, anti-virus scans, etc). I recall that Win7-32bit can really only access a max of 3GB of memory. These days, that's not a lot of space.

Alternately, are there any Sage plugins that could be uninstalled to free up memory?

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by JustFred

Given your other posts in various threads, I'm thinking the most likely cause of spinning circles is insufficient memory. Exactly which version of Sage is running? v9.1.10 and newer used more memory than older versions.

The values posted indicate that Sage already peaked at 625 MB of usage, right after reboot. Not much headroom before it maxes out the 779 MB. Got a handful of plugins installed? Any plugins which run periodically can quickly eat a bunch of memory. When extender(s) connect, *they* also consume memory. It gets used pretty quickly.

You might try increasing the max Java heap size from 300h (779 MB) to 400h (1038 MB). Of course, this assumes Windows even has enough memory space to do so. It depends on how many other Windows apps are also running. Don't forget other periodic programs will run, too (disk defragmenting, anti-virus scans, etc). I recall that Win7-32bit can really only access a max of 3GB of memory. These days, that's not a lot of space.

Alternately, are there any Sage plugins that could be uninstalled to free up memory?

Yeah, this is what I’ve been concerned with for some time, plus the fact I have about 6gb of recordings over three drives which likely get scanned every now and then. If it weren’t for my need for Firewire channel changes to a set-top box, I would have gone 64 bit a while ago, and double my ram. Plex is installed, AirVideoHD and HDHomerun software, as well as all the Hauppauge software on the server, but not much else. I do have a USB-UIRT, but to use it I have to relocate where one of my to set top boxes lives. I’ll see if I can change Java Heap size, but it may be maxed out already. Same for plugins - I’ll reassess those too. Thanks.

[JustFred]

Window's TaskManager can be used to determine how much memory is free, and how much memory is consumed by specific applications. That might give an idea if room is available to increase Sage's heap size. HDHR software is pretty light on memory usage. Although I don't run Plex nor AirVideoHD, I suspect Plex runs a service that scans the media collection and builds a database in memory.

[pjpjpjpj]

Can someone refresh my memory on how to change the java heap size for Sage, and whether it's different now on x64? On old 32 bit, I remember directions where you went to some screen and looked for "frey" and entered the number like "300h" or whatever. I tried searching here but there are tons of posts with "java heap" and I tried a google search but it's just the general overall java setting (for the whole computer, presumably). Help?

[wnjj]

For 64-bit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Frey Technologies\SageTV\JVMMaxHeapSizeMB



For 32-bit on 64-bit OS:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Frey Technologies\SageTV\JVMMaxHeapSizeMB

[pjpjpjpj]

Originally Posted by wnjj

For 64-bit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Frey Technologies\SageTV\JVMMaxHeapSizeMB



For 32-bit on 64-bit OS:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Frey Technologies\SageTV\JVMMaxHeapSizeMB

That was it... But where do you get to that input?
Edit: nevermind, found it, regedit. Thanks.

[wnjj]

Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj

That was it... But where do you get to that input?

Those are registry settings. Use “regedit” by pressing the Windows key and R, then type “regedit”.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by wnjj

For 64-bit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Frey Technologies\SageTV\JVMMaxHeapSizeMB



For 32-bit on 64-bit OS:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Frey Technologies\SageTV\JVMMaxHeapSizeMB

And for 32 bit on 32 bit OS? It’s in Frey\Sage\ JVMMaxHeapSizeMB, correct? Enter 400 in hexadecimal?

[wnjj]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

And for 32 bit on 32 bit OS? It’s in Frey\Sage\ JVMMaxHeapSizeMB, correct? Enter 400 in hexadecimal?

32-bit on 32-bit OS is the same path as 64-bit on 64-bit OS.

400h = 1024MB which is as much as you want to go on 32-bit SageTV.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by wnjj

32-bit on 32-bit OS is the same path as 64-bit on 64-bit OS.

400h = 1024MB which is as much as you want to go on 32-bit SageTV.

Ok, loaded it up and now will start observing response times, etc. For some odd reason, it was set to ‘0’, which isn’t something I set - it’s as if a windows update reverted the setting, so good call to mention it, thanks.