Weather

[Brewer]

Nice work on the plugin! How hard would it be to add support for more concurrent cities like the old weather plugin which allowed 4 cities?

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Brewer

Nice work on the plugin! How hard would it be to add support for more concurrent cities like the old weather plugin which allowed 4 cities?

Not too difficult. It would only require STV work, the java already supports multiple weather instances. I didn't add multiple cities because I never used it and was not sure how many people did.

[dstanley]

Anything you can do for us few Canadian users with the weather plugin?

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by dstanley

Anything you can do for us few Canadian users with the weather plugin?

I'm not really sure. The trick is to see if there is a good API available and I haven't looked at that.

[dstanley]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

I'm not really sure. The trick is to see if there is a good API available and I haven't looked at that.

This is all 'goobly-goop' to me - but maybe makes sense to someone - ha!

https://docs.ckan.org/en/latest/api/index.html

Found as looking for a Canadian Weather API.

Dwight

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by dstanley

This is all 'goobly-goop' to me - but maybe makes sense to someone - ha!

https://docs.ckan.org/en/latest/api/index.html

Found as looking for a Canadian Weather API.

Dwight

That's a generic site for anybody who wants to publish datasets online. The datasets can be most anything. Do you know that the Canadian weather info in in there?

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Brewer

Nice work on the plugin! How hard would it be to add support for more concurrent cities like the old weather plugin which allowed 4 cities?

Try the attached. Upzip the .xml into the Sage install directory then go to the plugin manager and update the plugin. It will allow you to enter multiple cities in the configuration menu.

[jusjoken]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

That's a generic site for anybody who wants to publish datasets online. The datasets can be most anything. Do you know that the Canadian weather info in in there?

I think OpenWeatherMap covers Canada and the US.

k

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by jusjoken

I think OpenWeatherMap covers Canada and the US.

k

Yes, I've been looking at that one. Unsurprisingly, it's very different than the NWS API and will require more development. It's currently the best free one I've seen for international weather.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

Yes, I've been looking at that one. Unsurprisingly, it's very different than the NWS API and will require more development. It's currently the best free one I've seen for international weather.

In Phoenix/Gemstone we took an approach of creating a WeatherAPI and then provided implementations for various weather providers. In this way the UI can be written once for 1 api, and then just plug in different providers. Not sure you went down that common API approach or not, but, might be worth looking into, as you add more weather providers for the default stv.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by stuckless

In Phoenix/Gemstone we took an approach of creating a WeatherAPI and then provided implementations for various weather providers. In this way the UI can be written once for 1 api, and then just plug in different providers. Not sure you went down that common API approach or not, but, might be worth looking into, as you add more weather providers for the default stv.

I wasn't that smart

The OpenWeatherMap API was much simpler than the NWS API. I have a good chunk of the Java written and am starting to put it into the STV.

I guess I don't mind editing the STV to add additional providers. When new provides are added it will always take additional coding and to me it doesn't matter if it's STV coding or Java coding.

[deanm]

Hi Tom

Have you ever looked at Dark Sky? https://darksky.net/

Seems to have a good API. Just wish I had the skills or time to implement this.

Dean

[dstanley]

Originally Posted by deanm

Hi Tom

Have you ever looked at Dark Sky? https://darksky.net/

Seems to have a good API. Just wish I had the skills or time to implement this.

Dean

This also appears to work for Canada too ...

[jusjoken]

Originally Posted by deanm

Hi Tom

Have you ever looked at Dark Sky? https://darksky.net/

Seems to have a good API. Just wish I had the skills or time to implement this.

Dean

This appears to be a pay based service so would only work if every user had an account and entered their own api key and paid for use beyond 1000 requests per day...likely as an individual level it would stay below the 1000 but you would have to read the terms to see if an app can require every user to signup.

k

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by deanm

Hi Tom

Have you ever looked at Dark Sky? https://darksky.net/

Seems to have a good API. Just wish I had the skills or time to implement this.

Dean

No, I haven't looked at that. I'm making good progress with OpenWeatherMap however.

[deanm]

Originally Posted by jusjoken

This appears to be a pay based service so would only work if every user had an account and entered their own api key and paid for use beyond 1000 requests per day...likely as an individual level it would stay below the 1000 but you would have to read the terms to see if an app can require every user to signup.

k

I have been using Dark Sky as a replacement for WU on Domoticz (Domoticz.com) and works very well. It polls the site every 5 mins, so it is well under the 1000 limit.

It requires you to request your own API key, but noticed the following line in the Terms Of Server and it states you at NOT alowed the following.

direct your end-users to sign up for their own API account (The Dark Sky API not intended to be used directly by end-users)

So I guess this is a no go unless someone pays for an API key which I don’t think is going to happen. And Domoticz is breaking the Term of Service.

Dean

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by deanm

Hi Tom

Have you ever looked at Dark Sky? https://darksky.net/

Seems to have a good API. Just wish I had the skills or time to implement this.

Dean

I looked at this as well as OpenWeatherMap. The OpenWeatherMap API was very simple and I have written most of the code to implement it. The good news is that it has data for A LOT of cities. The bad news is that OpenWeatherMap is too simple and does not supply very much data.

The darksky API is also fairly easy and provides more of the data needed and there are some open source Java APIs available. I plan on implementing that one as well and then give the user the choice of which to use; NWS, OpenWeatherMap, or Darksky . If they want to use Darksky they will have to sign up and get their own key.

That's the plan I have in mind. If nothing else I'll end up with some nice Java classes that can be used to access these weather services.

[Rob23]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

Try the attached. Upzip the .xml into the Sage install directory then go to the plugin manager and update the plugin. It will allow you to enter multiple cities in the configuration menu.

I installed this and updated, but the configuration menu doesn't appear to allow for entering multiple sites. When I select enter new location and enter a zip code, the configuration changes to the new zip code site, but I don't see how to then toggle among multiple sites. What am I overlooking?

[Rob23]

I've been experimenting with this plugin and comparing it to the previous weather underground layout, and I have a few suggestions/requests for updates.

1) It would be nice under the extended forecast to have the option to show the week in a grid format without the narrative detail. This was an option under the weather underground format.

2) In the extended forecast, when precipitation is forecasted, the weather underground format would include the forecasted amount of precipitation. Does the NWS provide this data and could it be included?

3) On the current conditions tab, where barometric pressure is displayed, is it possible to indicate weather the pressure is rising or falling?

Thank you for developing this plugin tmiranda.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Rob23

I installed this and updated, but the configuration menu doesn't appear to allow for entering multiple sites. When I select enter new location and enter a zip code, the configuration changes to the new zip code site, but I don't see how to then toggle among multiple sites. What am I overlooking?

When you enter the second site the options on the menu should appear to allow you to select the other site. If it does not, it's a bug. Try adding one or two more locations and then send me the logfile.

I'm taking a break at the moment due to the holidays.