SageTV Community  

Go Back   SageTV Community > Hardware Support > Hardware Support
Forum Rules FAQs Community Downloads Today's Posts Search

Notices

Hardware Support Discussions related to using various hardware setups with SageTV products. Anything relating to capture cards, remotes, infrared receivers/transmitters, system compatibility or other hardware related problems or suggestions should be posted here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-19-2004, 05:23 PM
7up 7up is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 176
MyHD HDTV tuner card support

Is there any roadmap or desire by Frey to add support for HDTV tuner cards like MyHD? MIT seems to be very interested in providing their users with new software updates, are they not the same in providing info to make adding support to SageTV possible?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-19-2004, 08:02 PM
kny3twalker kny3twalker is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,074
the HDTV and MVP support have been asked many times and all of us want them both do not worry

it would be nice if Frey said something though

the Access DTV card situation seems to be stagnate now too
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-19-2004, 10:11 PM
stanger89's Avatar
stanger89 stanger89 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 15,188
Hopefully they'll add support for a number of HD cards, the Fusion line looks like it could be a great choice, they seem like good cards with crappy software (sound familiar). Sage could make a lot of Fusion owners very happy.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-19-2004, 11:24 PM
7up 7up is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 176
Considering SageTV currently only supports hardware MPEG cards why would you say a software card like Fusion would be a great choice? Hardware cards like MyHD, ADTV etc would seem to make a lot more sense.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-20-2004, 06:40 AM
SHS's Avatar
SHS SHS is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Vinita, Oklahoma
Posts: 4,589
MyHD, ADTV and few other only have Hardware Decoder 7up vs cards like Fusion and other min which are base on Soft Deocder and just so know HDTV/SDTV is all ready in MPEG2 format know as transport stream.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-20-2004, 05:04 PM
7up 7up is offline
Sage Advanced User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 176
OK then Fusion card sounds good to me. Does Frey actually have any real plans for supporting HDTV cards or are we all just wishing?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-20-2004, 05:11 PM
kny3twalker kny3twalker is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,074
is there a large price difference between the two different styles of cards
because to me a hardware based decoder sounds better than a software one or am I wrong, here?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-20-2004, 05:32 PM
SHS's Avatar
SHS SHS is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Vinita, Oklahoma
Posts: 4,589
kny3twalker yes in min way Hardware decoder is far better.

AccessDTV Digital Media Receiver System
HiDTV PRO 2.0
MIT MyHD MDP-100 and 120
Teleman HiPix DTV-200
WinTV-D and HD

Keep there very little time left due to FCC rulings, none of these cards will likely be available for sale in the US after 7-5-2005. Some new hardware designs will be required to comply with a newly mandated anti-piracy scheme, although the current cards will still work. While some progress in other aspects of the cards/applications may make the current cards obsolete by late 2005, there will likely be a second hand market for the older designs thanks to the FCC.

I wouldn't be a bit supize if the FusionHDTV-I, -II, -III Gold and -soon- -III Gold QAM) have Broadcast flag build in to all ready in it drivers but then angine maybe not and therey just trying sell as min card as can before 7-5-2005 dead line.

HDTV is nice all but it space hog and have transcode and dow size the image if want the work in a DVD Player but thoses above that have S/Video output tired in PVR 250 will sure look good after you can get a cleaner signal then that as long HDTV recording have goof ball error in them like signal loss, etc, etc.

Last edited by SHS; 06-20-2004 at 05:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-20-2004, 05:34 PM
stanger89's Avatar
stanger89 stanger89 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 15,188
MyHD MDP-120 $290
AccessDTV $200
Fusion III QAM $200
Fusion III Gold $160
Sasem OnAir USB HDTV $300 (but includes MCE compatible SD encoder CX23416)

Of those w/ HW decoders, the AccessDTV is the only one that's usefull since it's the only one that can timeshift, and even then I'm not 100% sure you can play something different than it's recording.

Add to that no DivX support, possibly no OSD/UI, limited resolution support, and you're back to something very PVR350esque, something that sounds like a good idea, but in practice it is more complicated and more limited.

One thing to keep an eye on is the status of BDA drivers for HD cards. My understanding is that MCE requires BDA drivers, and from the fact that most (all?) mce encoders work with Sage, it seems likely that any HD cards with BDA drivers would also work in Sage (recording only). It looks (from reading at AVS) that there are BDA drivers in the works for the Fusions, MyHD, USB HDTV, possibly the ATI HDTV Wonder, and Vbox has announced MCE compatible HD cards (the 150/151)
http://www.vboxcomm.com/product3.htm

Hopefully we'll get HD support soon, I know I'd be more that happy to even beta test HD support.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-20-2004, 06:05 PM
SHS's Avatar
SHS SHS is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Vinita, Oklahoma
Posts: 4,589
Sasem OnAir USB HDTV only record from the Reg AIR analog tuner and analog input part stanger89 becuase I'm pettey it can't take HDTV file and render thur iTVC16.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-20-2004, 06:10 PM
stanger89's Avatar
stanger89 stanger89 is offline
SageTVaholic
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 15,188
AFAIK it can record either, but yes, the HD doesn't go through the encoder. It has to be able to record HD, because it uses software decoders for playback.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-20-2004, 06:39 PM
zz5's Avatar
zz5 zz5 is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 332
What kind of limits will cards sold after July 5, 2005 have? Will we still be able to record HD? Will we be able to copy to DVD (or high-definition DVD)? Just what are the anti-piracy rules going to limit us to?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2003-2005 SageTV, LLC. All rights reserved.