Google Fiber

[Brent]

Originally Posted by phelme

has there been any official mention of what OS the new incarnation of SageTV is running on? I'm assuming it was ported to Android.

I don't know, but my best guess would be that it is all using Linux of some kind - just like the HD300's are.

[drewg]

Originally Posted by Brent

I don't know, but my best guess would be that it is all using Linux of some kind - just like the HD300's are.

And just like android =)

Drew

PS: From my Galaxy Nexus:

% ./platform-tools/adb shell
shell@android:/ $ cat /proc/version
Linux version 3.0.31-g6fb96c9 (android-build@vpbs1.mtv.corp.google.com) (gcc version 4.6.x-google 20120106 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jun 28 11:02:39 PDT 2012
shell@android:/ $

[phelme]

Gotta say, it's painful listening to podcasts of tech sites (like Twit.tv) covering Google Fiber and then not having a clue what the PVR software is. They could do a little research. Sort of points to how niche that aspect of the product is perhaps.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by phelme

Gotta say, it's painful listening to podcasts of tech sites (like Twit.tv) covering Google Fiber and then not having a clue what the PVR software is. They could do a little research. Sort of points to how niche that aspect of the product is perhaps.

I used to watch TWIT alot, but lately it just seems to be Leo's Libertarian launch pad. They are completely clueless as to how brilliant Sage was/is. It makes me wonder just how tech-savvy they really are...

[wrems]

Ok... A little OT but I couldn’t resist sharing!

Yesterday, I decided to give that Chrome extension SoundGecko a test run and opened up this thread to have it email me a audio transcript of it.

Here are the results:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/393451/Sage...Transcript.mp3

Here is the point at which the transcription begins to read along with:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...9&postcount=91

Hilarity ensues! The best is the use of ploogin's! The subject matter when put to a robot voice sounds absurd and outrageously geeky...

[Skirge01]

ROFL! Holy crap that was funny! Is there a ploogin play store somewhere?

It also highlights the issue with the lengthy, nonsensical signatures most of us have!

[mitchedo]

Originally Posted by phelme

here's the video of the announcment. At roughly the 30 minute mark they get into the interface. Tell me this isn't an evolution of SageTV.

So I guess this settles the bet that the Sage crew wasn't and isn't working on Google TV.

I watched the video. SageTV in a locked-down, proprietary cable box? Sacrilege!

The Gb Internet makes me wish I lived in Kansas City, but the TV part is just another cable box from another cable provider. Sure the cable is fiber, but it's still cable, and your hardware still comes from your provider.

...looks like it won't play BD and DVD rips? What's the advantage over Hoppers? 8 tuners vs. 3? What else? Will there be an SDK? Will there be a software solution for those who like to "roll their own"? Can I easily add more storage? Will it connect to a NAS (though if it won't play rips, what's the point)?

[panteragstk]

I think the vast majority of the guys on this forum seem to forget that the percentage of people like us that want a box that does everything is very small. If I could get an STB from a provider that wasn't a pile of (insert preferred phrase here) and a REALLY good media player to go with it I'd be happy with that...maybe. But, as well all know that doesn't exactly exist. Hopefully we'll get to see something along the lines of what we have now so sage won't die for those of us that would like to use our own hardware. We can hope, but it won't get us very far.

[g-man]

Originally Posted by mitchedo

What's the advantage over Hoppers? 8 tuners vs. 3?

Just my opinion but if I need to capture 8 shows at once I need to get off the couch!

[Skybolt]

Originally Posted by g-man

Just my opinion but if I need to capture 8 shows at once I need to get off the couch!

Not if you have a large family, your shows, kids (x2), wife = 8+ somtimes.

[Skybolt]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

I think the vast majority of the guys on this forum seem to forget that the percentage of people like us that want a box that does everything is very small... .

I think that might be the other way around. Not this forum, but the market Google is going after WILL want everything from one box and not want to switch to other STB's for other content. My wife is one, she won't even use the Blu-Ray player any more since Sage.

I think a lot of people are going to view and want things a bit more simple. I could totaly off base, JMO.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by g-man

Just my opinion but if I need to capture 8 shows at once I need to get off the couch!

Originally Posted by Skybolt

I think that might be the other way around. Not this forum, but the market Google is going after WILL want everything from one box and not want to switch to other STB's for other content. My wife is one, she won't even use the Blu-Ray player any more since Sage.

I think a lot of people are going to view and want things a bit more simple. I could totaly off base, JMO.

The 8 recordings at a time thing is really getting some buzz here in Kansas City. People may not realize how cool the under-the-hood stuff is in the Google Fiber TV (or as I like to think of it: SageTV CE Premium) but they think it's pretty cool to not have to worry about that night when there are two of their favorite shows, 3 of their kids shows and a live sporting event all at the same time. Overkill? Probably, but never hurts to have the power to do it when you want to.

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by Brent

The 8 recordings at a time thing is really getting some buzz here in Kansas City. People may not realize how cool the under-the-hood stuff is in the Google Fiber TV (or as I like to think of it: SageTV CE Premium) but they think it's pretty cool to not have to worry about that night when there are two of their favorite shows, 3 of their kids shows and a live sporting event all at the same time. Overkill? Probably, but never hurts to have the power to do it when you want to.

Shortly after finding the 8 tuners useful, they'll be wondering why they're out of space on the DVR, trying to figure out how to add "more memory". Then, God help them.

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Shortly after finding the 8 tuners useful, they'll be wondering why they're out of space on the DVR, trying to figure out how to add "more memory". Then, God help them.

I have to think that there is an option to add external storage.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Shortly after finding the 8 tuners useful, they'll be wondering why they're out of space on the DVR, trying to figure out how to add "more memory". Then, God help them.

Originally Posted by panteragstk

I have to think that there is an option to add external storage.

I would think they could just connect it to their old SageTV server or client with giant hard drives and they would be good. That would be nice at least

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

I have to think that there is an option to add external storage.

Even if there is, it's probably like most STB's are. Hook up a USB or firewire external NAS, up to a certain TB limit that winds up not being nearly enough. Even then, these people will find out what it's like to lose what they perceive to be tons of recordings and have no recourse.

I'd love to see that happen and have some of them wind up here looking for alternatives to GF. Man...

[routerunner]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Even if there is, it's probably like most STB's are. Hook up a USB or firewire external NAS, up to a certain TB limit that winds up not being nearly enough. Even then, these people will find out what it's like to lose what they perceive to be tons of recordings and have no recourse.

I'd love to see that happen and have some of them wind up here looking for alternatives to GF. Man...

Not only that, but I hope that the people of KC are realizing that 1Gb is the link speed and not the download speed which is going to inevitably drop to a more realistic figures as soon you are accessing any website outside of KC, unless Google is mirroring any website on Earth on the KC backbone...unlikely...I reckon it will take minimum a decade to have a more worldwide distributed high speed bandwidth availability and not even close to 1Gb...

[wayner]

Originally Posted by routerunner

...I reckon it will take minimum a decade to have a more worldwide distributed high speed bandwidth availability and not even close to 1Gb...

Very true but you don't need 1Gbps to the whole world, 2% of that figure (20Mbps) is enough to handle a full HD broadcast in ATSC and even that is far more bandwidth than you would need for any streaming service available today such as Netflix, Hulu, etc.

[routerunner]

Originally Posted by wayner

Very true but you don't need 1Gbps to the whole world, 2% of that figure (20Mbps) is enough to handle a full HD broadcast in ATSC and even that is far more bandwidth than you would need for any streaming service available today such as Netflix, Hulu, etc.

In reality I wasn't just referring to the video stream capability, which indeed doesn't require that bandwidth, but to a more broad spectrum because GF is offering high broadband speed for the whole household first whereby the TV is the third and more expensive of the packages, so they are replacing your current ISP, modem and router, and this is the area I think is going to create more disappointment in term of "real world" download speed which is not "up to speed", yet

[Brent]

Originally Posted by routerunner

and this is the area I think is going to create more disappointment in term of "real world" download speed which is not "up to speed", yet

I understand your points - and I'm sure there is bound to be some disappointment here and there. But even with that, what they (and I) will be getting is a LOT better than what was available residentially before. When I went to the Google Fiber Demo Space in KC they mentioned that the main bottlenecks people would experience would be on the "other end" of the pipe but it still will improve much of what one does on the internet in terms of capability.

The U.S. is really behind on this. KC won't be the first, but they'll be pretty early adopters in this country. Someone has to do it and I'm glad to be that someone

I think the TV stuff is going to be an even bigger hit with people. Most of us in KC are stuck with Time Warner Cable which is fairly stinky to say the least.