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Old 07-10-2012, 03:24 PM
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If you get it to run the squeezebox app you can have that level of control.
Is there a Squeezebox player app for Android? I thought there were just controller apps.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:45 PM
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Is there a Squeezebox player app for Android? I thought there were just controller apps.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:13 PM
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Google is notorious for throwing something at the wall to see if it sticks. With the release of the Nexus Q, I’m beginning to think the Google purchase of SageTV had nothing to do with advancing GoogleTV, but purchased to create something totally different from GoogleTV.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:55 PM
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Now that there is an XBMC android port (http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/13/x...r-android-app/), this looks a bit more interesting. But for what I want (hd300 replacement), I'm not sure what the Q would buy me over an Allwinner A10.

BTW, its amusing that one of the top the google completions for "nexus q w" was "nexus q wtf" (was googling for the wikipedia entry)

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Old 07-16-2012, 07:47 AM
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Now that there is an XBMC android port (http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/13/x...r-android-app/), this looks a bit more interesting. But for what I want (hd300 replacement), I'm not sure what the Q would buy me over an Allwinner A10.

BTW, its amusing that one of the top the google completions for "nexus q w" was "nexus q wtf" (was googling for the wikipedia entry)

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If android STB's of one type or another could run XBMC reliable that could be a possible alternative to sage once pvr support is final. It will supposedly included in version 12 (Frodo).
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:58 AM
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If android STB's of one type or another could run XBMC reliable that could be a possible alternative to sage once pvr support is final. It will supposedly included in version 12 (Frodo).
Or Plex on Android. But I want something that can Skip as well as Sage does, I would really miss that if I couldn't just have a quick way to skip ahead.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:03 AM
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If android STB's of one type or another could run XBMC reliable that could be a possible alternative to sage once pvr support is final. It will supposedly included in version 12 (Frodo).
If. If, If, If. If. Appletv has been running it for a while, what's the big deal there? XBMC doesn't really do PVR.

And what's this about "supposedly included in version 12?" As far as I know, PVR support is absolutely *not* planned for the next version (see http://tinyurl.com/7aoy2wl and their roadmap linked there) . The fact is that XBMC forums have had discussions of PVR functionality as far back as 2007 (read: 5 years ago). If they were gonna do it, they would have done it.

Anyway, all this talk of "unified PVR frontend" doesn't sound like something that's gonna go anywhere to me. Kind of a copout, if you ask me.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:38 AM
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If. If, If, If. If. Appletv has been running it for a while, what's the big deal there? XBMC doesn't really do PVR.

And what's this about "supposedly included in version 12?"
AppleTV 2 is limited to 720p output, and I don't think it supports MPEG2, deinterlace, etc. Maybe fine for a kitchen TV or something, but I'm not ready to give up the far better quality I can get even with an HD100.

I think the problem with TV is that they want some abstraction layer for different PVR servers (MythtV, TVHeadend, MediaPortal, etc) and are having trouble converging. There are about 15 different patches / git trees / plugins that support some form of TV watching specific to various backends. It is hard to sort all of them out.

If I ever get any time, I intend to try a TVHeadEnd + XBMC based solution. I have an old Nvidia ION build gathering dust to use as the client, and its easy enough to setup a VM with one of my HDHR tuners for the server. The goal would be to replace the ION with some sort of 10w android appliance if I have to put this in production due to an HDx00 failure. That's why I'm excited about the Android XBMC port, and why I think the Nexus Q might actually be useful to me. For $250, I hope they'd have hardware accelerated MPEG2 & VC1 in addition to h.264.

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Old 07-16-2012, 10:04 AM
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If. If, If, If. If. Appletv has been running it for a while, what's the big deal there? XBMC doesn't really do PVR.

And what's this about "supposedly included in version 12?" As far as I know, PVR support is absolutely *not* planned for the next version (see http://tinyurl.com/7aoy2wl and their roadmap linked there) . The fact is that XBMC forums have had discussions of PVR functionality as far back as 2007 (read: 5 years ago). If they were gonna do it, they would have done it.

Anyway, all this talk of "unified PVR frontend" doesn't sound like something that's gonna go anywhere to me. Kind of a copout, if you ask me.
So, it's not going to be officially supported yet, but pvr functionality does work with the builds that support it. It running on android would be better than the apple tv due to the lack of complete codec support on the apple tv.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:57 PM
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For those of you that didn't read this get, Google is delaying (cancelling?) the Nexus Q. Interestingly, people who pre-ordered the Q will still receive it- and they won't be charged!

It will be interesting to see what Google does. I'm pretty surprised to see this. Did Google really that surprised by the negative reviews? I don't see how they could have been. It basically did less than any of the other streamers out there.

That being said, I think Google could do one thing that would make the Q a lot more interesting: release an SDK specifically for the Q. While a lot of people would probably still balk at the $300 price, I'd probably buy two or three Q's if I could get Pandora and Spotify on it. And a lot of people would probably want to see Netflix and Hulu.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:59 PM
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While a lot of people would probably still balk at the $300 price, I'd probably buy two or three Q's if I could get Pandora and Spotify on it. And a lot of people would probably want to see Netflix and Hulu.
I'd rather see the Q's software features integrated into GoogleTV and grab some 99$ vizio boxes.. (That and sageTV too, but..)
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:15 PM
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It will be interesting to see what Google does. I'm pretty surprised to see this. Did Google really that surprised by the negative reviews? I don't see how they could have been. It basically did less than any of the other streamers out there.

That being said, I think Google could do one thing that would make the Q a lot more interesting: release an SDK specifically for the Q. While a lot of people would probably still balk at the $300 price, I'd probably buy two or three Q's if I could get Pandora and Spotify on it. And a lot of people would probably want to see Netflix and Hulu.
I'd buy several if they would talk to a SageTV server and function as an extender. Otherwise - one has to wonder - what was the point of Google acquiring SageTV?
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- what was the point of Google acquiring SageTV?
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...4&postcount=25

(read through the Google+ comments...)
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:34 PM
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http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...4&postcount=25

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Aha! I hadn't picked up on that, being in the Land Downunder - thanks!

I guess it will be ages before the significance of this becomes apparent in Australia, with our National Broadband Network rollout. . .
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