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Old 05-18-2003, 07:03 PM
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Question dual source support on the PVR 250?

Any plans to support both the tuner and the video inputs on the PVR250 as indepedent sources?

I have both cable and a SAT box that could be connected on the same PVR card, however there is no way to do that with the current software (1.2.8)

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Old 05-19-2003, 09:04 PM
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You can just add a source twice to that capture card, one for RF one for S-video.
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Old 05-21-2003, 07:29 PM
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Wait a minute - I just noticed this thread. Are you saying that the PVR-250 (and 350, I assume) can simultaneously support recording from the cable and s-video ins?

So, my 1 tuner system is actually a 2 tuner one (technically, my cable box being tuner #2)
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Old 05-21-2003, 07:41 PM
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No, it can only record one source at a time. SageTV just allows you to set up two sources using one tuner card to accomodate different connections.
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Old 07-13-2003, 04:42 PM
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How do you select inout to record?

If I connect a cable directly to the tuner for non-digital channels and connect my cable box via the s-video, how will I be able to tell Sage which to use to record? If I tell it to record a non-digital channel, will it default to the tuner?

I would love to use this feature to record regular TV, but still be able to view digital channels on my TV (through a different input - not through Sage). Then, the only time I would not be able to watch digital TV is if I am recording a digital channel through Sage.

BTW, this is a GREAT product already and seems to get better every day. Thanks.
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Old 07-13-2003, 06:01 PM
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The only way to specify would be to remove any non-digital channels from the Cable box source. Make sure you have unique channels on both sources so you'll always know which source is being used.
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Old 07-14-2003, 06:53 AM
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This setup is exactly what I have currently. I have DirecTV coming into PVR-250 via S-Video and cable signal coming through the rf connector (RG-6). This way I record everything that isn't digital (or HBO) via the cable signal and can still watch digital channels. It automatically changes channels if something is being recorded via the Satellite...

This setup works very well for me.
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Old 07-14-2003, 09:20 AM
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With the Dish setup - do you do svid out to svid in on the 250 ?

What about the sound? Do you go in on the 250 for that ? or into the sound card on the machine? Or do you go straight from the Dish box to your reciver and bypass the htpc completely?

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Old 07-14-2003, 10:56 AM
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The sound needs to go in on the PVR250 because it gets encoded with the Video.
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Old 07-14-2003, 11:16 AM
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For the cable source, both sound and video come through RG-6. For dish, sound comes in on 1/8" stereo jack and video through S-Video....
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Old 07-19-2003, 08:19 AM
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I tried this, but every time I tried to "Add or Modify a Source" Sage seemed to only modify my existing source (PVR250 s-video). I was never able to get the same card recognized as a differebt source (tuner). I even had to delete the wiz.bin and wiz.bak files to get eveything working again.

How were you able to accomplish this? Thanks for all of the help.
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Old 07-21-2003, 08:47 AM
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When you select "Add a source" and then select the PVR-250 card, does it allow you to specify a different input?
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Old 07-21-2003, 09:53 AM
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I'm seeing this too [sorry to jump on your thread]. Have s-video from dish, rf from attenna, set up dual source no problem. But, when i look at the attenna channels, like Channel 3 [cbs], it shows the dish channel that the dish was left at.
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Old 07-21-2003, 04:46 PM
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I went into the setup wizard, selected "Add or modify a source", selected the Hauppage card, the xmltv epg, deleted the digital channels, and finally selected the tuner input. After completing the setup, the previous setup was gone (s-video w/ all channels) and had been REPLACED by the tuner input with non-digital channels.

I could not find a way to tell Sage that I wanted an additional source on the same card. It always assumes I want to modify the existing source. BTW, I am using beta 1.4.
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Old 07-21-2003, 05:56 PM
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I'm getting the same behavior.. I'd like to have it so that the TV tuner is used for all of the channels that it gets, and the S-Video is used for any of the other channels, or conflicts. Using 1.3 or 1.4.5 beta results in the same behavior, where it doesn't add annother entry, but replaces the old entry.
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Old 08-16-2003, 01:42 PM
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Bump. I still cannot fix this problem, even with the 1.4.8 RC1 release. It seems as if SageTV doesn't allow me to add two inputs off of the same card when using the XMLTV plugin.

Any ideas? Attempting to use different zip codes doesn't have any effect.
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Old 08-17-2003, 12:47 PM
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They each need to have a different provider ID. So it depends upon how the developer of the plugin dealt with provider IDs. Hopefully they can shed some light on that.
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Old 08-17-2003, 06:40 PM
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Granted, I don't have a whole lot of expirence coding Java, but judging from the structure of the XMLTV Import plugin, plugins don't have the capability of working for multiple providers. In the updateGuide function, it sets the provider to be 867507149L along with the channel map, but as the sage.epg code isn't available or documented, it's kinda hard for me to tell for sure. Unless there's a way to set up multiple input plugins, there's no way for there to be different plugins existing at the same time.
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Old 09-27-2003, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
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They each need to have a different provider ID. So it depends upon how the developer of the plugin dealt with provider IDs. Hopefully they can shed some light on that.
Is there anything new on this subject?

I'm not clear on what the xmltv plugin has to do with this.

What if I don't need guide support for the alternate input on one of my PVR-250's?

For example, I would like to share a security camera's output throughout the house using SageTV and the SageTV client. I don't need a guide for this single channel input source.

Is there some way to manually enable the (for example) composite input on one of my PVR-250's in the sage.properties file?

Thanks.
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Old 09-27-2003, 08:07 PM
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There is now a version of the XMLTV plugin that supports multiple sources. The thread is here...

http://forums.freytechnologies.com/f...&threadid=1706

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