STV: MlbDude2 1.8.7 - July 5

[mlbdude]

Originally posted by Alex0230
When I'm watching shows and they come to the end, I used to remember that the file would automatically close and the program would return to Sage Recordings. I could not find in this thread if that feature was taken out.....or if what I'm seeing is due to a bug I'm about to disclose.

I've been consistently using this STV since 1.5 and lately have been noticing a new issue with closing files. Sometimes when I close a file (STOP Button), the system will immediately reboot. A scenario I've found that typically causes this is the following:

I play a previously recorded show A...while watching A, show B starts to record. While still watching A, show B finishes recording. At this point, now if I close the file for A the system tends to reboot. Usually I don't notice this until I totally finish A and it gets to the end and I press stop to close the file. I don't have any "hs_err" logs because I run Sage off a RamDisk...I might take it off the ram disk for a while just to reproduce the error.

This happened before and after the new Sage.dll. The only other things I have changed within the last few months has been the 350 driver, I had upgraded to the new driver SHS had posted right when he posted it. The errors didn't start happening till a while after that though...

Is this something in the STV with closing of the file...could it be fixed in an STV? It's almost like the program loses track of while file to close because a new show had been recorded while watching another....it's just weird behavior.

Thanks for any insight...

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On a side note, the "options" screen does not come up in the two pane view....was this disabled, I couldn't find reference to that in the thread either.

I noticed a difference between using the STOP command via your remote and using the Close file menu item from the OSD pop-up.

If the Close file option works (I think it will) I am going to switch to that. This option mimics what Frey was doing in the Original. It is a shame that you 350 guys have these issues. Jeff tells me that there should not be anything I do in a STV that SHOULD cause issues since it is all so high level. However, I think with the drivers in the state they are that is not currently true.

Good news though is I can maybe fix this for you and not cripple it .

[mlbdude]

Originally posted by mlbdude
From what Narflex has told me (and my own experience) #2 is correct.

Though kny3twalker may be right . He is using it more than I.

[mlbdude]

Originally posted by kny3twalker
well I changed the arrows to false but it still trys to move the page up and down when I get either to the top or bottom of the list and the roll over still does not work
I still get stuck at either the bottom or the top

I tried to adjust the Sage UI as well

but found a small bug that happens when hit page down from the top of the list or page up from the bottom of the list
here's a picture

also with the addition of the upcoming movies the attows now seem proper but only when needed

Unfortunately this is not something I can control well in Studio. The only solution would be for you to decrease the font size used by those menu items or to remove a menu item. Reducing the font size just a bit is probably the easiest.

The trick will be to get it just right. You now have that example I mentioned where even just a few pixels too much will cause that.

It is even worse in the OrigionalV2 STV. Here is my setup with that one loaded.

[Alex0230]

Originally posted by mlbdude
I noticed a difference between using the STOP command via your remote and using the Close file menu item from the OSD pop-up.

If the Close file option works (I think it will) I am going to switch to that. This option mimics what Frey was doing in the Original. It is a shame that you 350 guys have these issues. Jeff tells me that there should not be anything I do in a STV that SHOULD cause issues since it is all so high level. However, I think with the drivers in the state they are that is not currently true.

Good news though is I can maybe fix this for you and not cripple it .

I'm using stangers GML file for sending messages and my STOP button is set for lParam 89, which is label "Close File" in the gml. I couldn't find an actual "STOP" command, either because I deleted it from the gml by mistake or it wasn't included in it. I will look to see if there is a different message for just stop as opposed to the close file one right now. I will also try to reproduce the scenario twice, once with using the remote stop and another with using the options menu close file and see if makes a difference.

How about why when the recording reaches the end, it doesn't automatically close the file? Before when I wanted to close a file, I used to fast forward to the end of a show...it would mark it watched and close it. : ) Is this something wrong on my end or something taken out of the STV?

I appreciate your help and insight to the problem...I'm almost scared nowadays to close a file. Sometimes I'll just open a new recording and then close that one...this scenario seems safer. : )

It seems like Sage loses track of which file to close/stop in my one scenario...and I'm only recently seeing this maybe because I'm only recently recording tv movies and watching them while other stuff is recording and finishing in the background.

EDIT
I checked and lParam 89 is the stop command for send messages:

Stop 89

There is no "close file" message to send to Sage, so maybe that's only available in the ui or maybe if I map a key to it and map my remote to that key stroke. I'll still verify that they are different...

[mlbdude]

Close file and Stop are the same thing in Sage. The difference is how am I capturing it, as a menu item or from a message from a command.

All of those events, including reaching the end of a file, are different hooks and can act differently. What I am going to do is replicate the behavior of the Close File menu item to the Stop command if this seems to work (it should). This will make it act just like the OrigionalV2 STV which is to return to the Main Menu.

In my STV when a recording reaches the end it will mark it as watched and return to to a menu (different menu depending on what type of file it is).

EDIT: Just the fact that you were confused by this also means that I am going to rename the menu item from Close File to Stop.

[cmaffia]

I don't know if it was reported but with the latest STV, I get weird graphic glitches on the time lines of the Program Guide.
Anyone else get this?

[mlbdude]

Originally posted by cmaffia
I don't know if it was reported but with the latest STV, I get weird graphic glitches on the time lines of the Program Guide.
Anyone else get this?

Can you post a screenshot?

[Opus4]

Sorry for all the quoting, but what I'm going to add to it is really funny...

Originally posted by Opus4
...those Favorite timeslots... are given as 1 hour intervals. Does this mean:[list=1][*]The show can only be recorded during that hour.
[*]The show has to start during that hour in order to be be considered for recording, but it can extend beyond that 1 hour slot.
[*]As long as some part of the show (beginning or end) falls into that 1 hour timeslot, it can be recorded.[/list=1]

Originally posted by kny3twalker
no it is case 3

Originally posted by mlbdude
From what Narflex has told me (and my own experience) #2 is correct.

I should have done some more testing before asking... I've now discovered that it is None of the Above & is option #4 instead:

4. The show has to START or END during that hour for the show to be considered for recording. If the timeslot hour falls entirely within the middle of the show, it will not get recorded. Thus a 2.5 hour movie that starts at 1PM & ends at 3:30PM will get recorded if the fav uses the 1PM or the 3PM timeslot, but not if the 2PM timeslot is used.

Edit: I submitted this as a bug to Frey & received a very fast response that it will be fixed in a future version, so the intended functionality is actually #3: record the show if any part of it falls within the timeslot specified.

- Andy

[danward79]

Any Chance of getting the archived shows onto the main menu? I do not use the dvd & media library stuff, Please!!

Dan

[Shuyun]

I just wanted to say WOW! Mlbdude you have taken what was a pretty good stv that comes with sage and made something great. It is so much better than the original stv that when tried going back to the old one I physically cringed.

Thank You
Thank You
Thank You for all your hard work.
Shuyun

ps. I know this comes off as a little lame, but I wanted to express my appreciation for your work.

[humptybump]

I am working on customizing the fonts for my instalation of SageTv with the MlbDude2 skin.

I have the font face and style set correctly but I can not determine which of the font entries controls the point size of the text of the channel names i nthe program guide.

No matter what changes I make, I can get the other items to be the right size but the text for the channel names (TBS, NBC, etc) are too big when the channel name is 4 letters or more (MSNBC, CNBC, BRAVO, etc).

[kny3twalker]

MlbDude your picture is awesome LOL
I added the arrows back though so it does not look stupid when I am on the serach for programs screen

Also I reread the options that Opus4 left and I think also it maybe number 2 as well
Not to sure cause sportscenter is many times back to back and it usually grabs the one that starts during the hour slot
I have not seen it grab the one that ends during the hour slot though yet
I used the aditional airing at the beginning to check what would be recorded then just let Sage do its thing
sportscenter would impossible to record without this
some shows are an hour some are an hour and a half
they rarely start on the hour or half hour mark

I just set mine for an early morning time so it has plenty of room not to get conflicts

[r00st3r]

I have the latest build 1.8.4 of the stv.
When I am in the Sagetv Recordings screen, two pane, and I go to the right to the specific shows, I cannot go back to the left to the grouping to select a different group of shows.

For Instance: I have 9 shows of Chappelle's Show. I go to the right to see the details of eac Chapelles show. If I press left (either on the keyboard or theremote) nothing happens. I have to use the mouse to go back over to the left side of the screen to select a different group.

Anyone have a solution to this???

Thanks

R00ST3R

[stanger89]

Press rewind I believe. If I remember correctly, that is the issue that kept the 2-pane view from making it into the official 2.0 release.

[kny3twalker]

HUH works fine on my remote but I am not using the property file mlbdude_two_pane_view or whatever it is

I use the enhansed OSD and choose horizonital and it works great
mlbdude has said that, that property is broken and he did this instead

[gotuitdan]

Hey mlbdude,

I tried the latest 1.8.4 to use the non-look-ahead miniguide and it didn't work...

When mlbdude/mini_guide_look_ahead=false, the look ahead was *on*, and when mlbdude/mini_guide_look_ahead=true, the miniguide produces a *blank* window, with nothing other than two (up/down) scrollers.

In other words, the true/false behavior seems backwards, and when look ahead is on (stating off), it doesn't seem to load anything, including the current guide info.

thanks!

dan.

[kny3twalker]

Works fine for me
to change it you need to close sage first and sleeping is not closed

then make the changes to the properties file

then restart sage

see if that makes any difference

I have not changed mine but it is true and works fine

[Alex0230]

Originally posted by kny3twalker
HUH works fine on my remote but I am not using the property file mlbdude_two_pane_view or whatever it is

I use the enhansed OSD and choose horizonital and it works great
mlbdude has said that, that property is broken and he did this instead

Can we get some clarification on this...is there a horizontal property I'm missing...this is the only one in my props file:

videoframe/video_horizontal_shift_freq=0

I'm also using the enhanced_osd, but I still have the issue of needing to press REW if and only if there are more than 5 recordings in the list I'm stuck in. If there are less than five recordings, I can press down to get to the bottom of the list of recordings and down once more and it takes me to the left.

use_enhanced_osd=true
use_episodes_in_filenames=true
use_mlbdude_sage_recordings=true

I wasn't aware that the enhanced_osd was supposed to fix this issue...otherwise I would have spoken up...must have missed that post.

[humptybump]

Originally posted by gotuitdan
When mlbdude/mini_guide_look_ahead=false, the look ahead was *on*, and when mlbdude/mini_guide_look_ahead=true, the miniguide produces a *blank* window, with nothing other than two (up/down) scrollers.

In other words, the true/false behavior seems backwards, and when look ahead is on (stating off), it doesn't seem to load anything, including the current guide info.

I must confess to seeing the same behavior with 1.8.4 as Dan - i.e. when lookahead is 'true' I have an ampty mini guide.

- Glen.

[mlbdude]

use_mlbdude_sage_recordings=true should be false. Setting it to true will give you an old version that Frey is giving out with the Original STV.

My current sage recordings menu is enabled in Detailed Setup->Multimedia->Sage Recordings Menu.

I guess for my next build I will disable the old behavior Frey is providing since it is causing confusion.

I will look into the the mini_guide_look_ahead issue.