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Old 11-09-2012, 08:50 AM
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Sorry for all of the posts but I seem to be getting a bit closer when trying the VLC method. I configured sagedct to use the VLC approach and on the test tab, I was able to successfully start and stop a .mpg recording and was able to view the recording just fine. I then don't touch that config, open SageTV, try to record a show, and a 0byte file is created and doesn't record.

Here's what I see in my sagedct log... thoughts?
You have to make sure VLC is added to your firewall. Full access.
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Old 11-10-2012, 01:04 PM
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Probably dumb questions but...

I'm trying to get SageDCT and an HDHomeRun Prime running on a headless XP box. SageDCT generates the assignments file just fine and I can send commands to the HDHR Prime from the SageDCT setup GUI without issue. The WinXP firewall is on and the correct UDP ports are poked through the wall. However, SageTV isn't showing the new sources.

Can PlayOn interfere with the setup?

Does SageTV generate a log file identifying network encoders or errors associated with using them?

Where does SageDCT write it's log file? I've got it installed here:
"C:\Program Files\babgvant.com\SageDCT" but no log files shows up. I have it set to 'verbose' but nothing seems to show up anywhere on the system. Is this an XP non-compatibility? I setup a system variable defining "ProgramData" but that didn't seem to help.

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Old 11-10-2012, 01:14 PM
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Probably dumb questions but...

I'm trying to get SageDCT and an HDHomeRun Prime running on a headless XP box. SageDCT generates the assignments file just fine and I can send commands to the HDHR Prime from the SageDCT setup GUI without issue. The WinXP firewall is on and the correct UDP ports are poked through the wall. However, SageTV isn't showing the new sources.

Can PlayOn interfere with the setup?

Does SageTV generate a log file identifying network encoders or errors associated with using them?

Where does SageDCT write it's log file? I've got it installed here:
"C:\Program Files\babgvant.com\SageDCT" but no log files shows up. I have it set to 'verbose' but nothing seems to show up anywhere on the system. Is this an XP non-compatibility? I setup a system variable defining "ProgramData" but that didn't seem to help.

Thanks.

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Did you copy the tuner assignments into the sage.properties file? .. make sure Sage is shutdown when doing this.
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:16 PM
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Yes, its pasted in. I disabled the sage service when I did it. The system had been rebooted since then, too, and the input stuck. Is there a way to tell if sage is throwing errors on what its reading?
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:40 PM
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Alright, since Silicon Dust has said they no longer plan to support XP, I'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 7. I've considered going straight to 8 but those who have are having issues. I'll wait for a service pack first.

I'm also hoping that going to Windows 7 reduces some of the mysterious halt issues I continue to have. I still have a hard time understanding the root of the halt problem. It can't be that more complicated than network encoder support and I have zero issues with multiple servers/devices there.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:00 PM
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Yes, its pasted in. I disabled the sage service when I did it. The system had been rebooted since then, too, and the input stuck. Is there a way to tell if sage is throwing errors on what its reading?
I don't know what else to tell you but XP is no longer supported by Silicondust see phelme post.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:27 PM
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Yup. Looks like it may be time to figure something out.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:30 PM
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Alright, since Silicon Dust has said they no longer plan to support XP, I'm going to have to upgrade to Windows 7. I've considered going straight to 8 but those who have are having issues. I'll wait for a service pack first.

I'm also hoping that going to Windows 7 reduces some of the mysterious halt issues I continue to have. I still have a hard time understanding the root of the halt problem. It can't be that more complicated than network encoder support and I have zero issues with multiple servers/devices there.
I upgraded all my boxes to windows 8 both server and clients and have had no problems performance is much better.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:13 PM
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Since I've upgraded to SageDCT 2.6 and more recent firmware on the Prime (20121107beta1) I've had no halts for nearly 2 weeks. Yeah.

So I may hold off on a Win 7 or 8 upgrade for a bit.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:07 PM
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I'm still participating in the Ceton Echo beta and have my HDHR Prime connected to my WMC test box. It is possible to share the HDHR Prime tuners between WMC and Sage?
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:38 AM
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there is no way for wmc and sagetv to be aware of each other's use of the tuners. best to simply divide the tuners between the two. otherwise recordings will fail if the tuner is suppose to be available to one system but isnt because the system other has it in use.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:01 PM
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Anyone having a problem with NFL Redzone where by the top and bottom of the screen is cutoff?
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:11 PM
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Anyone having a problem with NFL Redzone where by the top and bottom of the screen is cutoff?
I don't have redzone but I do have fios. And I had the issue on the nfl network and it annoyed me so much that I switched it so that it was one of the channels that I have to tune using my hd-pvr and stb like hbo and Cinemax as my ceton cards can't handle them either. Supposedly if you do the vlc option the issue goes away but I didn't want the slower channel tuning.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:39 AM
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FYI - The speed delay tuning with vlc is barely longer on my system. Only the latency of starting the process is noticeable which is insignificant on a fast machine.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:13 PM
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I had the same problem with the NFL Network on my HD300.
I changed the "Native Output Resolution Switching" to "DISABLED" in Setup>Detailed Setup>Multimedia.
I would sometimes get a little flickering on my screen when watching the NFL RedZone, but with the setting set to "DISABLED", the flickering was gone.
I normally have it set to "ENABLED" and only change it when I watch the NFL channels.
I do not know if it's a HD300 issue or the my Plasma TV.

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Old 11-28-2012, 01:35 PM
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You have to make sure VLC is added to your firewall. Full access.
I'm back on Windows 7 and using PBDA support again with my Ceton. For some reason I continue to get halts and multiple segment recordings on literally every recording I record since reinstalling win7 and sage. I then turned on network sharing with my Ceton and that didn't help.

Any thoughts on why I'm getting recordings with multiple segments? I never used to get that on win7 before I went to win 8 and then came back to win7.

I then tried to use the vlc recording in win7 but am getting the same error I was getting in win8: "Error starting VLC: The process cannot access the file 'T:\SageTV Recordings\Today-S2012E314-7676284-0.mpg' because it is being used by another process."

Any thoughts on either how I can get PBDA support to not spit out recordings with multiple segments or how I can get vlc support working? I checked my firewall settings and both sagetv, vlc, and sagedct all have access.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:13 AM
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I'm back on Windows 7 and using PBDA support again with my Ceton. For some reason I continue to get halts and multiple segment recordings on literally every recording I record since reinstalling win7 and sage. I then turned on network sharing with my Ceton and that didn't help.

Any thoughts on why I'm getting recordings with multiple segments? I never used to get that on win7 before I went to win 8 and then came back to win7.

I then tried to use the vlc recording in win7 but am getting the same error I was getting in win8: "Error starting VLC: The process cannot access the file 'T:\SageTV Recordings\Today-S2012E314-7676284-0.mpg' because it is being used by another process."

Any thoughts on either how I can get PBDA support to not spit out recordings with multiple segments or how I can get vlc support working? I checked my firewall settings and both sagetv, vlc, and sagedct all have access.
Thought I'd bump this with some more info. Here's what the log looks like around the time it needs to create a new segment and switches from a -0.mpg to a -1.mpg. Any thoughts? As I mentioned above, I have network sharing on for my Ceton tuner. I'm also using the Ceton's latest drivers. What else can I tweak? Should I try tweaking any other SageDCT settings? I literally get multiple segments for EVERY recording now.. and it usually breaks apart at random times (sometimes every 20 minutes, sometimes every 50-60 minutes).

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2012/12/01 23:17:16.66 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:17:16.66 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:17:16.66 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:17:31.66 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:17:31.66 : 6979 Bytes Received: 60
2012/12/01 23:17:31.66 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:17:31.66 : GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:17:31.66 : WARN GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:17:31.66 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:17:31.66 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:17:46.66 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:17:46.66 : 6979 Bytes Received: 60
2012/12/01 23:17:46.66 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:17:46.66 : GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:17:46.66 : WARN GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:17:46.66 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:17:46.66 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:01.66 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:01.66 : 6979 Bytes Received: 60
2012/12/01 23:18:01.66 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:18:01.66 : GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:01.66 : WARN GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:01.66 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:18:01.66 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : 6979 Bytes Received: 60
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : WARN GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : 6979 Bytes Received: 6
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : ProcessMessage 6979: NOOP
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: OK
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : After Accept: 6972
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : 6972 Bytes Received: 6
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : ProcessMessage 6972: NOOP
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : SageDCTTuner 6972 Send: OK
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : Before Accept: 6972
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : After Accept: 6970
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : 6970 Bytes Received: 6
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : ProcessMessage 6970: NOOP
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : SageDCTTuner 6970 Send: OK
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : Before Accept: 6970
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : After Accept: 6975
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : 6975 Bytes Received: 6
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : ProcessMessage 6975: NOOP
2012/12/01 23:18:16.66 : SageDCTTuner 6975 Send: OK
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : Before Accept: 6975
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : 6979 Bytes Received: 60
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : WARN GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : 6979 Bytes Received: 60
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : WARN GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : 6979 Bytes Received: 60
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : ProcessMessage 6979: GET_FILE_SIZE T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-0.mpg
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : WARN GetSize has not changed: 205762560 - 12/1/2012 11:17:16 PM
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: 205762560
2012/12/01 23:18:16.67 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.68 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:16.68 : 6979 Bytes Received: 6
2012/12/01 23:18:16.68 : ProcessMessage 6979: STOP
2012/12/01 23:18:16.68 : Stop active recording: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:17.14 : PBA Capture Stop: 1 - Ceton InfiniTV PCIe (00-80-0c-6b) Tuner 4
2012/12/01 23:18:17.14 : Recycle Tuner
2012/12/01 23:18:17.14 : Cleanup True - Ceton InfiniTV PCIe (00-80-0c-6b) Tuner 4
2012/12/01 23:18:17.14 : PBA Capture Cleanup Begin - Ceton InfiniTV PCIe (00-80-0c-6b) Tuner 4
2012/12/01 23:18:17.14 : PBA Capture Cleanup Complete - Ceton InfiniTV PCIe (00-80-0c-6b) Tuner 4
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : SageDCTTuner 6979 Send: OK
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : Before Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : Startup 0 - False - Ceton InfiniTV PCIe (00-80-0c-6b) Tuner 4
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : After Accept: 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : 6979 Bytes Received: 143
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : ProcessMessage 6979: START SageDCT-Ceton InfiniTV PCIe (00-80-0c-6b) Tuner 4 Digital TV Tuner|551|2708843794284|T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-1.mpg|Great
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : StartRecording - 6979: Request - Channel: 551 File: T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-1.mpg
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : No active recordings in Stop - 6979
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : StartRecording 6979 - TNT HD
2012/12/01 23:18:17.15 : 6979 Channel: 551 FilePath: T:\SageTV Recordings\Inception-7762511-1.mpg
2012/12/01 23:18:17.16 : DC TuningSpace: Local Digital Cable - Ceton InfiniTV PCIe (00-80-0c-6b) Tuner 4
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:32 AM
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Since I've upgraded to SageDCT 2.6 and more recent firmware on the Prime (20121107beta1) I've had no halts for nearly 2 weeks. Yeah.

So I may hold off on a Win 7 or 8 upgrade for a bit.
Are you still halt free?

I just set up Prime a few weeks ago and I've been having occasional halts with my rig. I'm running 20121011beta1 with SageDCT 2.6

I may try updating to the new beta. Do I have to reinstall anything after a firmware update on Prime - SageDCT? - register the CableCard?

Thanks,
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One halt too many
Okay. Tonight my prime halted on both airings of Gold Rush. That's unacceptable.

Could someone summarize the best practices for eliminating these halts?

I've only recently setup the prime, and although I've read almost every post in this thread, it's unclear if people have been able to resolve the halt issue or if there is a certain level of halts that is considered acceptable.

Any help would be appreciated.

My setup is in my signature. I can provide more info on my setup as needed.

Thanks in advance,
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:46 AM
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Okay. Tonight my prime halted on both airings of Gold Rush. That's unacceptable.

Could someone summarize the best practices for eliminating these halts?

I've only recently setup the prime, and although I've read almost every post in this thread, it's unclear if people have been able to resolve the halt issue or if there is a certain level of halts that is considered acceptable.

Any help would be appreciated.
I'm not sure what exactly stopped mine (I'm on XP BTW), but when I upgraded to SageDCT 2.6 and Prime firmware 20121107beta1 all my halts suddenly disappeared.
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