SageTV acquired by Google

[darcilicious]

Originally Posted by rwc

If not, which "epg alternative" is considered the most popular/strongest supported?

Probably Slugger's: http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57265

[Brent]

Originally Posted by rwc

I know there's been discussion about this before, but hopefully we can make on thread that contains all the answers:

1. What happens to the forums at the end of the year? Are they going to be dead, or will google let it stick around?

2. Now that "google fiber" has been announced, can we sage users piggy back on the google fiber epg? If not, which "epg alternative" is considered the most popular/strongest supported?

3. When extenders die, do we just throw them out? Is there some sort of schematic or place we can send the extenders to so they can get "fixed"?

4. Can I run a strand of fiber from NJ all the way to Kansas City to get google fiber at my home?

I know of no reason the forums or the EPG would go away at the end of this year or the next even. My educated guess is both will be around for a while into the future - well past the end of this year.

When extenders die.... you know, that's a good question. I'm not sure.
About that strand of fiber.... it will get to NJ, NY etc. Just don't know when.

[Skybolt]

Originally Posted by rwc

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3. When extenders die, do we just throw them out? Is there some sort of schematic or place we can send the extenders to so they can get "fixed"?

4. Can I run a strand of fiber from NJ all the way to Kansas City to get google fiber at my home?

3. I asked this of Jeff, about a year ago including asking him for the Comm protocol. Jeff replied to the question with a question and I never got an answer. So I just assumed the answer was no.

If you think about it, a schematic woul dbasicly be a blue print to make more extenders and they don't want that.

4. Sure, aim your cross bow in the general direction and hope it pegs a line

[Skybolt]

Originally Posted by Brent

I know of no reason the forums or the EPG would go away at the end of this year or the next even. ...

I believe Jeff answered this question, and said the forums and EPG would be around through the end of the year.

He didn't comment on extending or saying it would be past that time. I think it may have been earlier in this thread where he said this.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by Skybolt

I believe Jeff answered this question, and said the forums and EPG would be around through the end of the year.

He didn't comment on extending or saying it would be past that time. I think it may have been earlier in this thread where he said this.

His comment said it would be around at least through the end of the year. If he were to drop the EPG service, we would be given plenty of lead time. There is not a reason to worry for now - beyond the end of this year.

[nycjoe]

I wonder how expensive it is to keep the EPG running. Is it just the cost of a schedules-direct subscription X sagetv-users?

There's about 300 people who replied to that head-count thread (man I hate that thread), times $25 equals about $7,500 per year..

Maybe we can all chip in and send Google a check on xmas so they spare us having to muck around with a new EPG?

[BobPhoenix]

Originally Posted by nycjoe

I wonder how expensive it is to keep the EPG running. Is it just the cost of a schedules-direct subscription X sagetv-users?

There's about 300 people who replied to that head-count thread (man I hate that thread), times $25 equals about $7,500 per year..

Maybe we can all chip in and send Google a check on xmas so they spare us having to muck around with a new EPG?

I would expect it is more like a site license in that they don't have to give exact numbers just $xx,xxx dollars per year. What $xx,xxx amounts to would just be a guess. I suspect the usage is much higher than 300 people however.

[flavius]

Originally Posted by Brent

When extenders die.... you know, that's a good question. I'm not sure.

Well, don't we struggle all with those ultimate questions? I for one am considering stuffing mine.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by nycjoe

Maybe we can all chip in and send Google a check on xmas so they spare us having to muck around with a new EPG?

That shouldn't be necessary

[tvmaster2]

I asked the same question a year ago, i.e. what happens to the forums? that's a real concern. would we likely be able to get permission to port the forum elsewhere if the Google folks don't want to deal/pay for them? without these forums, SageTV would be a slog for a lot of users.

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

I asked the same question a year ago, i.e. what happens to the forums? that's a real concern. would we likely be able to get permission to port the forum elsewhere if the Google folks don't want to deal/pay for them? without these forums, SageTV would be a slog for a lot of users.

AFAIK google moved these forums to their servers. Someone should be able to confirm.

[darcilicious]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

AFAIK google moved these forums to their servers. Someone should be able to confirm.

I don't think so.

>nslookup forums.sagetv.com
Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: forums.freytechnologies.com
Address: 66.84.24.194
Aliases: forums.sagetv.com


>tracert forums.sagetv.com

Tracing route to forums.freytechnologies.com [66.84.24.194]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 3 ms 192.168.1.1
2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms static-50-53-160-1.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.53.160.1]
3 8 ms 9 ms 10 ms G16-0-1-212.PTLDOR-VFTTP-12.ncnetwork.net [184.19.244.80]
4 69 ms 11 ms 42 ms xe--11-3-0---0.car01.tgrd.or.frontiernet.net [50.38.7.21]
5 16 ms 16 ms 18 ms ae2---0.cor02.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.181]
6 36 ms 16 ms 19 ms ae0---0.cor01.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.185]
7 13 ms 17 ms 16 ms ae4---0.cor01.sttl.wa.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.221]
8 13 ms 14 ms 14 ms ae0---0.cbr01.sttl.wa.frontiernet.net [74.40.5.122]
9 16 ms 17 ms 14 ms twtelecom.com [206.81.80.64]
10 1209 ms 92 ms 91 ms cmh1-ar3-ge-0-0-0-0.us.twtelecom.net [66.192.243.162]
11 90 ms 91 ms 92 ms lan-a.cr1.cmh.peeringcore.net [69.4.240.17]
12 90 ms 94 ms 89 ms 68.171.194.117.cust.static.cmh.datacenter101.com [68.171.194.117]
13 91 ms 91 ms 93 ms s194.n24.n84.n66.static.myhostcenter.com [66.84.24.194]

Trace complete.

http://support.myhostcenter.com/ doesn't look like a google hosting farm to me. They seem to be a hosting re-seller on http://datacenter101.com/ which is located in Columbus, Ohio...

[rochurch]

Today's Dilbert reminds me of SageTV http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-08-15/

Hope it makes somebody laugh - instead of crying. I still love Sage, but I miss the periodic upgrades and excitement.

[Mitch G]

Originally Posted by Brent

That shouldn't be necessary

Hmmm. A short sentence with a winky face ...
I suspect Brent knows something ... hmmm ....


Mitch

[hagur]

So, it's been more than a year now since Google aquired Sage. Any news? Will we be seeing some updates to SageTV? A new product from Google compatible with the old SageTV?

I've been Googling but all I can find are old news since last year when the acquisition took place.

Here's one hoping SageTV hasn't become an abandonware ...........

[darcilicious]

Check out this thread (you might want to start at the end and work your way backwards)

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58799

[craigdthom]

Hello All,

Just stopping by and checking in to see if any new details have been released on the "New" Google/Sage product.

-Craig

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by craigdthom

Hello All,

Just stopping by and checking in to see if any new details have been released on the "New" Google/Sage product.

-Craig

Try searching or browsing the forums. There are several threads.

[davidjames]

Originally Posted by craigdthom

Hello All,

Just stopping by and checking in to see if any new details have been released on the "New" Google/Sage product.

-Craig

The short answer is no. The long answer involves interpreting oblique winks and vague words as only true believers can.

[wayner]

The long answer also involves living in Kansas City.