SageTV acquired by Google

[Brent]

Thanks for getting us back on topic

I'm not sure microbrews are focusing on ales - is that really true?

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by Brent

Thanks for getting us back on topic

I'm not sure microbrews are focusing on ales - is that really true?

Sure seems like it. I can find tons of ale only breweries, but few that are primarily lager or bock based (my 2 favorites). I guess that's why I lean toward the German brews.

[GMan78]

Brent, I hear you, still waiting for Sony to apologize to me for the $1400 Laser Disk Player they sold me...

Yes, that may be....but it is still under someone's control (Google) and if I don't voice my views and concerns they will never be heard....at least I can make peace with that!

Thanks for the comments Brent.

George

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by GMan78

Yes, that may be....but it is still under someone's control (Google) and if I don't voice my views and concerns they will never be heard....at least I can make peace with that!

Thanks for the comments Brent.

George

You know that it should tell you something when Jeff is still reading through this thread. He even commented on what he could. Granted, it had nothing to do with sage, but he is still out there. I am still holding out hope that once his NDA is over he'll have some good news for us. I'm willing to bet that it is killing him having to keep his mouth shut to us.

Oh crap, I forgot this is a beer discussion...

[ThePaladinTech]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

You know that it should tell you something when Jeff is still reading through this thread. He even commented on what he could. Granted, it had nothing to do with sage, but he is still out there. I am still holding out hope that once his NDA is over he'll have some good news for us. I'm willing to bet that it is killing him having to keep his mouth shut to us.

Oh crap, I forgot this is a beer discussion...

(BTW, can we change the thread title to "SageTV acquired by Google. Can't do anything about it. Might as well have some beer")

My sentiments exactly - Seeing how we need an admin type to change the topic, perhaps he can do that

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Brent

I'm not sure microbrews are focusing on ales - is that really true?

I think you'll find there are quite a few more 'good' microbrew ale's than microbrew lagers and such. Part of that is due to the lack of decent american ale's from the big guys, so it is natural that the microbrews would fill that gap. That said, I'd wager that the reason most those Ale's are considered 'good' ale's, is also due to the lack of a decently sized market mass produced ale's for comparison.

[Skirge01]

First time I felt like commenting (or even reading) this thread again. I'm more of a wheat beer drinker, so I gravitate towards the German brews myself.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

I'm more of a wheat beer drinker, so I gravitate towards the German brews myself.

Hoegaarden (Belgian) - They invented the stuff so they know what they're doing. See my previous comment about the Belgians and Czech's teaching the German's about brewing.

[sleonard]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

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One question I do have is why are most breweries making Ales over Lager/pils or anything else I'm forgetting?

Originally Posted by Brent

Thanks for getting us back on topic

I'm not sure microbrews are focusing on ales - is that really true?

Originally Posted by panteragstk

Sure seems like it. I can find tons of ale only breweries, but few that are primarily lager or bock based (my 2 favorites). I guess that's why I lean toward the German brews.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

I think you'll find there are quite a few more 'good' microbrew ale's than microbrew lagers and such. Part of that is due to the lack of decent american ale's from the big guys, so it is natural that the microbrews would fill that gap. That said, I'd wager that the reason most those Ale's are considered 'good' ale's, is also due to the lack of a decently sized market mass produced ale's for comparison.

A beer is either an ale or a lager. The difference is in the fermentation and storage temperatures. Ales are fermented and stored at normal room temperatures while lagers are fermented at lower temperatures and require special yeasts that are active in these lower temperatures. Lagers also require significantly longer fermentation even with lager yeasts. Lagering is also know as "bottom-fermentation" while ales use "top-fermentation".

Since lagers require more time to produce as well as refrigeration to get the low temperatures they are more difficult and expensive to produce and is why there are fewer lagers than ales.

Terms such as Dunkel, Bock, and Pilsener refer to types of Lager. Ales are usually just called beer and tend to be bitter. The word ale is rarely used anymore except in the beers name (Newcastle Brown Ale, Pete's Wicked Ale, Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale, etc.)

S

[IVB]

Originally Posted by IVB

Oy. Wife called, she's working late, and its "kids eat free night" at the local pasta joint. Rather, it's "dads drink free wine".

3 glasses of wine later, and I just bid $300 on an HD300. WTF, my only solace is that i'll be outbid shortly.

Microbrew would have been the better move. Or Bud Light, no way could I drink more than 0.125 ounces of that.

Oh thank god, I just got outbid, it's now up to $330. After the wine buzz wore off, I realized I really don't want a single function playback device if its $300, for not much more I could build a fanless multi-function HTPC. (not that I want to, but I could).

I'm deleting eBay Mobile from my iPhone, I clearly cannot be trusted with it. Either that, or stick with lagers, I end up doing silly things when I have wheat beer as I rarely have just, eh, 3-4.

[ThePaladinTech]

Originally Posted by IVB

Oh thank god, I just got outbid, it's now up to $330. After the wine buzz wore off, I realized I really don't want a single function playback device if its $300, for not much more I could build a fanless multi-function HTPC. (not that I want to, but I could).

I'm deleting eBay Mobile from my iPhone, I clearly cannot be trusted with it. Either that, or stick with lagers, I end up doing silly things when I have wheat beer as I rarely have just, eh, 3-4.

And that is why I am looking at the PC clients as well. Something that can work with SageTV now, and work with whatever comes next (google or whatever) ... and it's not even single function, all mine will do is be a client, but a PC can be a client for many options out there.

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by ThePaladinTech

And that is why I am looking at the PC clients as well. Something that can work with SageTV now, and work with whatever comes next (google or whatever) ... and it's not even single function, all mine will do is be a client, but a PC can be a client for many options out there.

I've got a nice setup in my wish list on newegg that I think would make a perfect client. I didn't use an ssd, but for an extra $50 it could be added.

Here it is:

hec Black 0.7mm Thickness SECC (Japanese Steel Metal) ITX ITX200A Mini ITX Media Center / HTPC Case
Model #:ITX200A
Item #:N82E16811121115 $59.99 -$10.00 Instant $49.99

ASRock E350M1 AMD E-350 APU (1.6GHz, Dual-Core) AMD A50M Hudson M1 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo
Model #:E350M1
Item #:N82E16813157228 $109.99

WINTEC AMPO 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model 3AMD31333-4G2K-NHR
Model #:3AMD31333-4G2K-NHR
Item #:N82E16820161456 $33.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD5000AAKS
Item #:N82E16822136073 $44.99

KEYSPAN ER-V2 Silver RF Wireless RF Remote for Windows Vista
Model #:ER-V2
Item #:N82E16826641002 $42.99

LG Black Super-Multi Combo Drive SATA Model CT21N - OEM
Model #:CT21N
Item #:N82E16827136194 $99.99

Subtotal: $381.94

[Naylia]

Originally Posted by IVB

Oh thank god, I just got outbid, it's now up to $330. After the wine buzz wore off, I realized I really don't want a single function playback device if its $300, for not much more I could build a fanless multi-function HTPC. (not that I want to, but I could).

I'm deleting eBay Mobile from my iPhone, I clearly cannot be trusted with it. Either that, or stick with lagers, I end up doing silly things when I have wheat beer as I rarely have just, eh, 3-4.

I've have gotten very close to upgrading my AVR due to eBay Mobile. Definitely need to be careful with it while consuming tasty...microbrews.

PS...glad I could successfully derail this thread to happier thoughts for so many pages.

[ThePaladinTech]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

I've got a nice setup in my wish list on newegg that I think would make a perfect client. I didn't use an ssd, but for an extra $50 it could be added.

Here it is:


ASRock E350M1 AMD E-350 APU (1.6GHz, Dual-Core) AMD A50M Hudson M1 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo
Model #:E350M1
Item #:N82E16813157228 $109.99

(and a bunch of other stuff)

Subtotal: $381.94

Yepper - the e350 is one I am really looking at but I am concerned about how snappy the menus will be with an e350. As far as the SSD goes, I plan on building whatever I do and using a notebook HD I have lying around (I think it *might* be 60Gb) - and *if* i have startup issues getting an SSD. For an e350 I am looking at the Zotacs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856173022 mount it right on the back of the tv

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by ThePaladinTech

Yepper - the e350 is one I am really looking at but I am concerned about how snappy the menus will be with an e350. As far as the SSD goes, I plan on building whatever I do and using a notebook HD I have lying around (I think it *might* be 60Gb) - and *if* i have startup issues getting an SSD. For an e350 I am looking at the Zotacs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856173022 mount it right on the back of the tv

We've derailed our derailed thread. I posted some stuff in your thread in the hardware section.

Back on the off topic.

This list is interesting to see how big some of the breweries actually are by volume produced.


Top 50 Breweries by Volume
1. Anheuser-Busch Inc.
2. MillerCoors Brewing Co.
3. Pabst
4. D. G. Yuengling and Son Inc.
5. Boston Beer Co.
6. Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.
7. New Belgium Brewing Co.
8. North American Breweries
9. Craft Brewers Alliance, Inc.
10. Spoetzl Brewery
11. Deschutes Brewery
12. Independent Brewers United
13. Matt Brewing Co.
14. Minhas Craft Brewery
15. Bell’s Brewery, Inc.
16. Harpoon Brewery
17. Boulevard Brewing Co.
18. Goose Island Beer Co.
19. Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
20. Alaskan Brewing and Bottling Co.
21. Long Trail Brewing Co.
22. August Schell Brewing Co.
23. Stone Brewing Co.
24. Abita Brewing Co.
25. Brooklyn Brewery
26. Lagunitas Brewing Co.
27. Full Sail Brewing Co.
28. Shipyard Brewing Co.
29. Summit Brewing Co.
30. New Glarus Brewing Co.
31. Great Lakes Brewing Co.
32. Anchor Brewing Co.
33. Iron City Brewing Co.
34. Kona Brewery LLC
35. Rogue Ales
36. Firestone Walker Brewing Co.
37. Winery Exchange Inc. / World Brews
38. Sweetwater Brewing Co.
39. Mendocino Brewing Co.
40. Flying Dog Brewery
41. Victory Brewing Co.
42. Gordon Biersch Brewing Co.
43. BJ’s Chicago Pizza & Brewery
44. Stevens Point Brewery Co.
45. Odell Brewing Co.
46. BridgePort Brewing Co.
47. Cold Spring Brewing Co.
48. Rock Bottom Brewery
49. Oskar Blues Brewery
50. Straub Brewery

[Yalbik]

Originally Posted by sleonard

A beer is either an ale or a lager.

What about lambics?

[sleonard]

Originally Posted by Yalbik

What about lambics?

There's always one in the crowd

S

[flavius]

Anybody ever bought beer online? Can't get myself to do it..

[wayner]

How do they get the liquid through the broadband connection?

[flavius]

Yeah, and will it be cold enough? Or too cold or too warm? This can quite ruin your day.