Are those of you who have upgraded to Windows 7 and Sage 7 happy?

[Polypro]

Windows 7 is the most stable OS from MS yet...I want stable.

Team Viewer blows away RDP, and with Hamachi, you don't have to open a single port on your router for anything (Team Viewer, Sage Web Interface, WHS access, etc...).

Home Premium can be had in 3 packs that lower the price even further.

Sage 7 = Better UI (Black/Gray - love it!) and native Blu-ray...happy, happy, joy, joy!


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[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by gplasky

If you're looking for the best fit I would recommend Windows 7 Pro. The only things you would miss from Ultimate (or Enterprise) is Aero Glass Remoting, AppLocker, Drive Encryption, Distributed Cache, DirectAccess, Subsystem for UNIX apps, Languages and Virtual Hard Disk Boot. Things that are not neccessary for a Sage server. Those are more business/enterprise type features. So don't pay the extra $50 for Ultimate.

Gerry

DirectAccess? What is that, exactly? I have done a preliminary build using W7 Home Premium, as I had an extra family pack license.
One thing I can't seem to simulate on W7 that I had running with XP MCE: a password free admin account that didn't seem to need any user names/passwords to access from remote machines on the same workgroup. Everyone says I SHOULD be able to do it, but I can't get it to work.

So, I set up my admin account with a user name but no password, that way the system auto boots to desktop.
With XP MCE, I never had to type a thing to access this machine from another, but with W7HP, I can't seem to duplicate that scenario, no matter what I mess with in "advanced sharing". Homegroups are disabled, as I still have a few XP machines.

any thoughts? Is this a "shortcoming" of Home Premium?

[gplasky]

Direct Access is a new feature of Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2. It has the same purpose as VPN, i.e., it allows users to connect securely to the corporate network through the Internet. The main difference is that the connection is established in the background without requiring user interaction.

I think you just need to go to User Accounts. Under the Users tab, un-check Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. Make sure you went to the Properties of My Computer and look for the Remote Desktop tab to add a user to be able to remote in. I think by default you can't use Administrator so create a user called Remote or use another ID.

Windows 7 is more secure and MS is trying to protect you against yourself. It is bad practice for Administrator NOT to have a password. Anyone could remote to your PC and destroy it. Or any trojan or virus. I always give a password and actually rename that account to something else. I always use the PC as a non-admin user type.

If you just want a user to autlogin you can in the run menu type control userpasswords2.
Just press WIN + R to get the RUN menu.
The user accounts windows will now open up.
Look for the option saying ” Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer ” and uncheck this option and press “OK”.
Now a windows opens up asking you to enter the current password you use to log in to Windows 7. Enter the password and confirm. Done!.

Gerry

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by gplasky

Direct Access is a new feature of Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2. It has the same purpose as VPN, i.e., it allows users to connect securely to the corporate network through the Internet. The main difference is that the connection is established in the background without requiring user interaction.

I think you just need to go to User Accounts. Under the Users tab, un-check Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. Make sure you went to the Properties of My Computer and look for the Remote Desktop tab to add a user to be able to remote in. I think by default you can't use Administrator so create a user called Remote or use another ID.

Windows 7 is more secure and MS is trying to protect you against yourself. It is bad practice for Administrator NOT to have a password. Anyone could remote to your PC and destroy it. Or any trojan or virus. I always give a password and actually rename that account to something else. I always use the PC as a non-admin user type.

If you just want a user to autlogin you can in the run menu type control userpasswords2.
Just press WIN + R to get the RUN menu.
The user accounts windows will now open up.
Look for the option saying ” Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer ” and uncheck this option and press “OK”.
Now a windows opens up asking you to enter the current password you use to log in to Windows 7. Enter the password and confirm. Done!.

Gerry

Thanks - I firgured out the WIN + R trick. Can you do that with a
second" account, aka NOT the admin account? Therefore, the W7 machine will autoboot into the non-admin account, is that correct?

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

Thanks - I firgured out the WIN + R trick. Can you do that with a
second" account, aka NOT the admin account? Therefore, the W7 machine will autoboot into the non-admin account, is that correct?

Yes-any of the accounts on the machine.

Gerry

[electron]

I recently tried Win7 64 bit Pro with SageTV7, and it ran great. I found out the hard way that my PVR-x50 tuners aren't supported, so I had to roll back to XP (and I still can't get them working :/), but otherwise I had no issues. If you don't need Firewire support, and have newer hardware which is Win7 compatible, definitely go the Win7 route.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by electron

I recently tried Win7 64 bit Pro with SageTV7, and it ran great. I found out the hard way that my PVR-x50 tuners aren't supported, so I had to roll back to XP (and I still can't get them working :/), but otherwise I had no issues. If you don't need Firewire support, and have newer hardware which is Win7 compatible, definitely go the Win7 route.

I installed W7 32 bit, mainly for that reason: firewire support and older cards. W7 recognized the PVR-150 and had drivers in its' database ready to go, although I haven't tested it yet.

[jelevin]

Base on advice here I upgrade from XP / Sage 6 to Win 7 + Sage 7. So, for windows there is no "upgrade, " you need to reinstall all files and software from a backup. For Sage, I copied the directory and installed Sage 7 into that directory. It worked, so I purchased the Sage 7 license. Entered the licesne, and it asked for the 6 license. I found that email from 4 years ago. It then asked for the previous license.

I am a very long time customer, and extremely frustrated.

[Fuzzy]

The licenses you actually need are your original full purchase license, and the v7 upgrade. If you don't have the original purchase, contact sagetv and they will send it to you (there's a FAQ entry about lost registration keys).

[Pinan]

Originally Posted by electron

I recently tried Win7 64 bit Pro with SageTV7, and it ran great. I found out the hard way that my PVR-x50 tuners aren't supported. . .

I have Win7 32 bit Home Premium and have a PVR 150 running with no problems at all (SageTV7). Windows installed the drivers and that was it. I also have a 2250 that I did need to load the drivers for. No issues with either.

Well, one small issue. SageTV does not have focus when Windows wakes from sleep, so the Hauppauge remote takes two "Power" clicks to wake SageTV. Still working on that one.

[Mike]

I'm just about to do some upgrades in the next several days. I've really been sweating out the difference between Windows 7 Home premium and Pro. I'm currently running 1 XP pro and 2 MCE boxes. Two of the boxes are headless servers now, but that will drop to one soon. It has been convenient for me to administer everything from my computer. I have the multiple RDP hack so I can work on a box while someone else is using it. If I was to save the bucks and use Home Premium and Team viewer, what would I be missing? - would I regret it?

Thanks
Mike

Edit: Backing up across the network was one of the appealing things about pro ....is it worth it?

[Fuzzy]

I'm pretty sure you can use the same RDP hack on win7 home premium as well.. so you probably wouldn't be missing anything...

[Mike]

Yeah, I read some stuff that indicated that some people were having some problems with it and it kind of scared me off, but if the Team Viewer is a solid solution, that would increase my confidence.

[SteveD]

I want to upgrade the server to windows 7, but it would cause a fight with the wife. My system is very stable. Her attitude is why change it when it is working so well. The upgrade to HD was the only one I got threw with minimal fuss.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Mike

Yeah, I read some stuff that indicated that some people were having some problems with it and it kind of scared me off, but if the Team Viewer is a solid solution, that would increase my confidence.

Never used TeamViewer, but Unless it actually uses RDP to connect, it isn't going to be able to connect to a background session (only the console session).

[ttdberg]

I recently migrated from WinXP/SageTV6 to Win7/SageTV7 and I am very happy. The migration involved moving to a completely new machine with modern hardware - Core i3/540 with 4GB RAM. It is significantly faster and seems a lot more stable so far. I do miss SageMC, though, and find myself wanting to go back to that great interface. I know it can be installed on SageTV7, but I am trying to get used to the new SageTV7 UI for now. It's the little things I miss, like when browsing videos, the ability to use the "right" button on the remote to bring up the "A thru Z" list to quickly do alphabetic jumps. I guess you don't realize how useful these seemingly small things are until they are gone. I have a pretty large MKV video library, so the MyMovies plugin will be my next fun endeavor. I understand that there is an effort underway to create a more SageMC-like UI for SageTV7, so I am really looking forward to that as well.

[wayner]

Why not use SageMC - I am continuing to use it but I hope one of the other UIs coming soon will entice me to move away from it. IMHO SageMC is still the best UI for Sage by a wide margin.