How to reset / update meta data for a DVD Import

[sdsean]

So I have a bunch of surf videos that are imported, and some of them have
titles that also match other known movies. One example is "A Day In The Life".

Somehow this movie got linked in the db as a different movie.
But with the BMT, I can't seem to update the IMDB id's and such to set them to empty. So Sage keeps displaying the wrong image even though I have fan art that I created myself and such.

I tried using the edit meta data feature of the web interface, but that doesn't let me edit meta data for dvd info.

Basically I just want to remove the IMDB ID, image, and what not that have been saved with this file. . .

[gplasky]

Try looking for the .properties file generated by BMT for that movie and edit that file, It is just a text file. The fields in the file should be self explanatory.

Gerry

[sdsean]

well that partially works. . . when I goto the "view video detail" screen, it still has a picture from the wrong movie, and its no where to be found in any fan art folders. . .

[gplasky]

I believe the path to the image is also found in the .properties. Just changed that path and point it to the image you want. ALso look for a .jpg image named the same as the movie/recording and get rid of it or replace it with your image named the same way.

Gerry

[sdsean]

Hmm, I can't find the .properties file for that dvd anywhere. . . any other suggestions

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by gplasky

Also look for a .jpg image named the same as the movie/recording and get rid of it or replace it with your image named the same way.

Gerry

Did you find that at all? A .jpg named the same as the DVD?

Gerry

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by sdsean

So I have a bunch of surf videos that are imported, and some of them have
titles that also match other known movies. One example is "A Day In The Life".

Somehow this movie got linked in the db as a different movie.
But with the BMT, I can't seem to update the IMDB id's and such to set them to empty. So Sage keeps displaying the wrong image even though I have fan art that I created myself and such.

I tried using the edit meta data feature of the web interface, but that doesn't let me edit meta data for dvd info.

Basically I just want to remove the IMDB ID, image, and what not that have been saved with this file. . .

I'm curious what you mean when you say that you cannot update the metadata for DVDs. I do it all the time. In my test environment I have mix of TV, DVD, and regular movie rips.

The imdbid, is basically a "reference" field. It really doesn't do anything, and it has no impact on the fanart, etc. The 2 fields that control fanart are MediaType (TV,Movie) and MediaTitle (becomes the fanart directory name for the movie/tvshow)

You cannot clear a field in BMT web ui, which is annoying, I agree. There are technical reasons for that, which I need to address.

Sometimes the easiest way to clear out the metadata for a movie/show is to remove it from your library, tell sage to refresh, and then to add it back in again. That will clear any metadata associated with the movie. Be sure to disable the automatic plugin (from the web ui configuration) when you add the movie back in, or else bmt will once again fetch new metadata. If you have an existing .properties, then sage will use that on the re-import.

To ensure that fanart gets looked up correctly, then make sure that you set the MediaType and the MediaTitle. They are used in the fanart central folder to resolve the posters, etc... in the form,

CENTRALFOLDER/MediaType/MediaTitle/Posters/*.jpg

FYI... if you have a folder.jpg or MoviaName.jpg in the dvd directory then sage will use that as the thumbnail. So make sure that you clean out any .jpgs in the DVD directory (or the VIDEO_TS) directory. Ie, the possible thumbnails that sage will recognize for are dvd are...

DVDs/Highlander/folder.jpg
DVDs/Highlander/VIDEO_TS/folder.jpg
DVDs/Highlander.jpg

So, if you have any of those .jpgs lying around, then sage will use that (phoenix apis will use it as well, if there isn't fanart in the central folder)


Good luck.

[sdsean]

I can update the metadata, although you are correct that I cannot clear fields that I need to clear. I was worried that part of the cause was the IMDB ID, which is clearly wrong, and I just wanted to remove it. Although if the IMDB ID is not causing an issue, its no worries. . .

Removing the import, then refreshing, then adding back is a huge pain. . . b/c my stuff is in top level directories and there are way too many things getting imported. . .it takes like 2 minutes+ per refresh, so that would mean each time I want to clear something its a least a ~5 minute process. . . no bueno. . .

(I should note that BMT somehow loses data every once in a while. . . I spent hours updating the Friends DVD collection, with each disc having its own description including all the episodes on that disc, only to have some of them disappear. But I suspect there could be something I'm doing wrong, and that's a different topic of conversation).

The FanArt portion is working just fine, but when I got to the "view video details" screen in sage it shows a different picture. . .

Its just a matter of finding where that picture is coming from. . .which I did indeed finally find, it was in the root folder of my imports (not in the sub for each movie).

Thanks for the help. . .

[Mark SS]

I've been having a similar issue with recorded movies. I tend to record them, rename, copy out of the TV Recordings folder, delete from within Sage, then add to the movie library on the NAS, then get metadata for them with BMT web interface.

Unconfirmed but it appears that following an EPG update, the meta data for some of these files gets set to some random completely unrelated movie. Again not yet confirmed but it looks like unedited movies have the problem whereas those that I've VideoRedo'd are untouched.

Today I removed all video import folders from Sage and rescanned. I was left with 30 entries in the Video library despite the paths having been removed. Next step, rename the folder on the NAS and delete each of the non-existant files from Sage. Scanned again, confirm no remaining ghost entries, setup imports again.

Have scanned with BMT and majority have been picked up and the correct meta data added. Will check after next EPG update and see if they've all stuck.

[Mark SS]

Lost a few again. The problem files have an MV prefixfor the ExternalID/AiringID, those that are keeping their data are MF. Is this likely to be a BMT or core issue?

[stuckless]

Personally, I don't think it's a bmt issue. Here's why.

* BMT is responsible for adding metadata, and while it can fetch the wrong metadata, it does not clear metadata.
* BMT wont overwrite files that have existing metadata except in a manual update. ie, the automatic processor does not overwrite.

I think you'll need to troubleshoot this by removing plugins. ie, update your metadata so that it's correct, and then remove all plugins. If the metadata disappears, then it's not a plugin causing the issue, and you can file a report with sagetv core.

If everything works without plugins, then start adding plugins back in, one by one, testing each one, until the problem happens.

[Mark SS]

Good call, I'll do as suggested over the next couple of days.

[Mark SS]

Followed steps as per Stuckless's suggestion. As soon as I triggered an EPG import via the web interface, the 3 files that have MV prefixes lost their metadata and ended up with spurious unrelated descriptions/dates.

Have submitted a bug report.

[Mark SS]

Support say it must be a plugin thats assigning the MV prefixes, which then results in the metadata being overwritten by the core on an EPG refresh. Next step, to be absolutely sure, is to clean and reimport everything without plugins active and see what the prefix is via the web interface.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by Mark SS

Support say it must be a plugin thats assigning the MV prefixes, which then results in the metadata being overwritten by the core on an EPG refresh. Next step, to be absolutely sure, is to clean and reimport everything without plugins active and see what the prefix is via the web interface.

Out of curiosity... Are these recorded movies? And are you updating their metadata using BMT? Personally, I don't think that should be an issue. BMT does not change the showid (ie MV####) unless you are importing an external file in as a recording. When you import a movie in as a recording, then bmt will generate a MV prefix (MVmt####) but that should not clash with sage's show ids.

[Mark SS]

Exactly that. Recorded movies, copied out of recording directory, deleted from recordings, sometimes edited (VideoRedo) then put in the import directories and picked up by BMT.

My money is on Sage giving the file the MV tag but I need to prove that before support will listen

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by Mark SS

Exactly that. Recorded movies, copied out of recording directory, deleted from recordings, sometimes edited (VideoRedo) then put in the import directories and picked up by BMT.

My money is on Sage giving the file the MV tag but I need to prove that before support will listen

If the ExternalID (also called the ShowID in the Web UI) starts with "MVmt" then it was created with BMT. What's the showid of one of your movies?

[Mark SS]

The problem files had MVnnnnnn IDs. Supports last response was that there must be .properties files in the import directories, which of course there aren't. I've supplied logs showing the files being imported and given the MV IDs. I've then VideoRedo'd the problem files and reimported and can see in the logs that they are given MF IDs.

I questioned whether it could have been anything to do with this new feature:

SageTV recordings now have their full metadata embedded into the file
Files recorded by SageTV now have their complete metadata information embedded into them which enables the reimporting of transferred recordings to be problem-free.

Would make sense to me that the recordings are picking up the IDs from embedded meta data, which is snipped out during a VideoRedo edit. Alas, still no response.