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Old 11-03-2010, 09:59 PM
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Sorry guys but I'm sure you gonan know the answer to this. I've been searching for a bit but can't find the answer. I have Phoenix Fan Art installed and MetaData Tools. I see the small fanart coming up in the corner of the guide and shows so I know its collecting some Fan art but after enabling Fan Art on every screen I can find I can never get back ground fanart to show up.

Please tell me what piece I'm missing. Looks great otherwise except I agree with somebody else that the fonts on the home screen need to be smaller.

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Rob
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:37 AM
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Sorry guys but I'm sure you gonan know the answer to this. I've been searching for a bit but can't find the answer. I have Phoenix Fan Art installed and MetaData Tools. I see the small fanart coming up in the corner of the guide and shows so I know its collecting some Fan art but after enabling Fan Art on every screen I can find I can never get back ground fanart to show up.
Sounds like you may be just seeing the default sagetv fanart "small" that will show for some shows but has a "square" look rather than the wider "rectangle" shaped Phoenix fanart in the thumbnail area. Did you point the Phoenix Core plugin to the location if your fanart or set it up in the settings/configuration/customize area after installing Phoenix Fanart for V7?

Also you might have automatic fanart fetching turned off in BMT.

These are all just guesses till I see a screen shot. Please post so I can get you sorted out.

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Old 11-04-2010, 08:06 AM
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I noticed a couple of bugs in this theme last night. I apologize if these have been noted before.

1. you don't list the duration of dvds in the dvd info pane. BDs do have the duration. I know the run time is in the property files for my dvds.

2. in the help screen where you put up the flashing red boxes and describe what you will see in that area, when you get to the time region, the time text in the left pane gets garbled.

3. I haven't figured out how to reinstall this ui mod after having uninstalled it. It appears to be installed, but i get a hybrid default stv with diamond menu animations (the cool rotating arrow thing) and a blue hi-lite bar. no amount of reinstalling or importing diamond ui mod appears to get me the full diamond ui.

Thanks again!
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:30 AM
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I noticed a couple of bugs in this theme last night. I apologize if these have been noted before.

1. you don't list the duration of dvds in the dvd info pane. BDs do have the duration. I know the run time is in the property files for my dvds.

2. in the help screen where you put up the flashing red boxes and describe what you will see in that area, when you get to the time region, the time text in the left pane gets garbled.

3. I haven't figured out how to reinstall this ui mod after having uninstalled it. It appears to be installed, but i get a hybrid default stv with diamond menu animations (the cool rotating arrow thing) and a blue hi-lite bar. no amount of reinstalling or importing diamond ui mod appears to get me the full diamond ui.

Thanks again!
1. We didn't do anything there that I am aware so that must be default sagetv behavior....

2. Not sure what we did there but if logged we can look at it keeping track of post here is too difficult the log is or reference for issues.

3. You must renable it...beyond that there is nothing else to do.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:36 AM
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I noticed a couple of bugs in this theme last night. I apologize if these have been noted before.

1. you don't list the duration of dvds in the dvd info pane. BDs do have the duration. I know the run time is in the property files for my dvds.

2. in the help screen where you put up the flashing red boxes and describe what you will see in that area, when you get to the time region, the time text in the left pane gets garbled.

3. I haven't figured out how to reinstall this ui mod after having uninstalled it. It appears to be installed, but i get a hybrid default stv with diamond menu animations (the cool rotating arrow thing) and a blue hi-lite bar. no amount of reinstalling or importing diamond ui mod appears to get me the full diamond ui.

Thanks again!
DVD Info - This isn't something we changed so I would need a screen shot to verify exactly what is missing and make sure we didn't inadvertantly change it, not sure how we could have though.

Looks like the header mod messed the new help screen up, I will log and fix.

To uninstall you need to go into the installed plugins and uninstall the Diamond UI Mod and then uninstall the Diamond Theme after.

To install you only need to install the UI Mod as the Theme is called by the UI Mod as a dependency and will install automatically.

Cheers,

Jeremy
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:28 AM
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DVD Info - This isn't something we changed so I would need a screen shot to verify exactly what is missing and make sure we didn't inadvertantly change it, not sure how we could have though.
I'll have to get this to you later today. I don't have a test system at work with any dvds or bds.

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To uninstall you need to go into the installed plugins and uninstall the Diamond UI Mod and then uninstall the Diamond Theme after.

To install you only need to install the UI Mod as the Theme is called by the UI Mod as a dependency and will install automatically.
uninstalling and reinstalling only the ui mod resulted in a screwy default ui. the menus were the original v7 ui, but it had some diamond features, llike the animated arrow on the main menus.

the only way I got diamond to reinstall correctly was to uninstall the ui mod and manually uninstall the diamond theme. after I did this, I installed the diamond ui mod only (it automatically installed the theme) and I got the diamond theme back.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:36 AM
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DVD Info - This isn't something we changed so I would need a screen shot to verify exactly what is missing and make sure we didn't inadvertantly change it, not sure how we could have though.
the default v7 ui doesn't so the duration for dvds either. It looks like this is a bug for sage not you.

sorry!
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:05 AM
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the default v7 ui doesn't so the duration for dvds either. It looks like this is a bug for sage not you.

sorry!
I am pretty sure it isn't a bug but rather the fact they have no way of knowing the length of a dvd title since it contains more than one chapter etc.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:12 PM
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I am pretty sure it isn't a bug but rather the fact they have no way of knowing the length of a dvd title since it contains more than one chapter etc.
In the properties file for the movie, there is a RunningTime field. I'm assuming they are using this field to display the duration, not the actual length of the movie. Also, they do show the correct duration for bds. The duration is only missing on dvds.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:58 PM
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Not a bug but just something that seems odd to me.

For the Options menu when you want to turn Fanart ON you click the button that reads "FanartOff" and when you want to turn it off, you click the button that reads "ShowFanart". I'm smart enough to figure it out but, isn't this backwards???
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:08 PM
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Just as long as you realize the label on the button indicates its current status. It's like when your light switch is off it is in the position that shows it is off. So it's not really backwards if you understand the purpose of the label. If the button said only "off" or "on" it would be easier to see it is correct.

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Old 11-04-2010, 02:29 PM
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Just as long as you realize the label on the button indicates its current status. It's like when your light switch is off it is in the position that shows it is off. So it's not really backwards if you understand the purpose of the label. If the button said only "off" or "on" it would be easier to see it is correct.

Gerry
Yes, I do realize that and it would take about 2 clicks for even a monkey to figure it out I was just saying it seems backwards... example being even here at the bottom of my screen. There is a button that reads "Submit Reply" and when that button is clicked, THAT action is taken. So, following similar convention (to me normal convention... but I'm probably not normal LOL) clicking a "ShowFanart" button would show the fanart... not turn it off

Again, no big deal. Just a comment
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:42 PM
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Agreed. And in your example that button label is an action label. It tells what the button is going to do. And there is no reason for the label to change. There are various examples in Sage where the button label is used as a status label. Its purpose is twofold. It tells what state the button is in and performs the state change. All depends on the UI Designer, their philosophy and what they feel is more important to display. Not big deal at all.

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Old 11-04-2010, 03:44 PM
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I'm with Gerry on this. It is a label and an action. The label shows the current status, you click the button to make the state change. My one criticism would be the label itself. Using the same format standard convention would be helpful: "Fanart On" and "Fanart Off". That would also get away from action words like "Show" and "Hide"... which may confuse people because they are actions and think that pressing that button will perform that action (as opposed to states like on or off).
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:49 PM
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Just wanted to say thanks for sharing this. Finally had a chance to load it up, looks fantastic!

I know it's a simple thing, but I love the way the arrows "move" when you change focus on the main menu - brilliant!
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:11 PM
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Just wanted to say thanks for sharing this. Finally had a chance to load it up, looks fantastic!

I know it's a simple thing, but I love the way the arrows "move" when you change focus on the main menu - brilliant!
Thanks I didn't like that when I first did it but it grew on me
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:13 PM
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Just installed it today. NICE! just have a few questions about the icons.
What is the 3 rectangles side by side (green blue green)? And what is the Red tv with the ! ?
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:26 PM
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I think those are listed in the Help menu in the Setup menu.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:28 PM
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What is the 3 rectangles side by side (green blue green)? And what is the Red tv with the ! ?
The Green Blue Green icon is the Comskip (CS) icon replacement made to look like a mini time bar with a marked commercial. An Green Green Green means no comskip file is done.

The Red Tv with the ! is just a refresh of the recording conflict icon that is normally a white outlined TV filled with yellow and a red !.

I guess I could do a cheat sheat but these are all listed on the SETUP/HELP/VIEW MENU HEADER INFORMATION screen and the SETUP/HELP/VIEW TV INDICATORS AND MARKERS screen.

PS - I know the weather icon is broken in the VIEW MENU HEADER INFORMATION screen and will fix with next release. I messed it up when I modded the header.

Cheers,

Jeremy

EDIT - Looks like I'm too slow to the draw, nice to have all the help.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:41 PM
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Cool. Thanks guys. I'll check it out.

One other thing, I noticed your time bar to be darker than the standard v7 time bar. most watch stuff when they have captions or CC or ticker bars are normally at the bottom of the screen. So, when I pause I have to wait for the time bar to disappear to read it (I know there is a setting where I can set when it disappears but right now I have it at 3sec).

Is there a way to have either have the time bar on top and then info on the bottom. or have a thiner time bar (without the volume slide) on the bottom?

PS I have the same problem with the standard V7 ui.
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