Can HD200 output 1366x768?

[Grant.Edwards]

For those of us with TVs or monitors containing 768-line displays, it
would be rather nice if the HD200 could output at the set's native
resolution (it eliminates a scaling operation which degrades display
quality).

Is there any way to set the HD200 output resolution to match a
768-line display's native resolution? (1360x768, 1366x768, and
1368x768 are all common.)

--
Grant

[Taddeusz]

That depends a lot on your tv. Whether or not it actally exposes that resolution through HDMI. Many tv's only expose 1366x768 through their VGA port. You would need to create a custom resolution in order to test if your tv can do that.

Personally I despise "720p" tv's. It's stupid that they manufacture a higher resolution panel. Anything that gets displayed on those panels needs to be scaled. As a result you'll never get a perfectly sharp image since no video is ever going to match the physical resolution of the display.

[Grant.Edwards]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

That depends a lot on your tv.

Yes, my TV will accept that resolution via HDMI.

That's not what I was asking.

I was asking if there was any way to get the HD200 to _output_ that
resolution.

Whether or not it actally exposes that resolution through HDMI. Many
tv's only expose 1366x768 through their VGA port. You would need to
create a custom resolution in order to test if your tv can do that.

I don't need to test my TV. My TV does handle that resolution via
HDMI. It says so in the specs/manual, and I've successfully run in
that way in the past when it was connected to something other than an
HD200.

I want to know if I can get the HD200 to output 136x by 768.

Personally I despise "720p" tv's. It's stupid that they manufacture a
higher resolution panel.

Presumably it's an unfortunate "leftover" from the processes already
set up to manufacture displays for computer monitors.

Anything that gets displayed on those panels needs to be scaled. As a
result you'll never get a perfectly sharp image since no video is ever
going to match the physical resolution of the display.

True, but one scaling operation is better than two, and scaling is
best done as the video is being decoded (e.g. in the HD200).

[Taddeusz]

You obviously haven't read the FAQ. I told you exactly what you needed to do. Create a custom resolution. The information can be found in the FAQ here:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...693#post252693

You probably won't like the results though. The resolution becomes selectable from Detailed Settings but cannot be made the default resolution (i.e. setting it in the settings before your HD200 connects to your sever). You would be required to go in and manually select the resolution each time. Technically this can be done but unplugging the power reverts the change so it's not really worth the time and effort.

[Grant.Edwards]

Originally Posted by Taddeusz

You obviously haven't read the FAQ.

I must have missed that one because I was looking for for HD200.

I told you exactly what you needed to do. Create a custom resolution.
The information can be found in the FAQ here:

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...693#post252693

Thank you.

You probably won't like the results though. The resolution becomes
selectable from Detailed Settings but cannot be made the default
resolution (i.e. setting it in the settings before your HD200 connects
to your sever). You would be required to go in and manually select
the resolution each time. Technically this can be done but unplugging
the power reverts the change so it's not really worth the time and
effort.

That's unfortunate.

[valnar]

Aren't most 720p TV's 1366x768?

I don't own a 720p TV, but was thinking of picking up a small LCD TV for the bedroom. They're all that resolution. Wouldn't the 720p setting cover that 1:1? If not, does that mean *no* 720p TV would be correct with Sage?

[Fuzzy]

no false 720p display (1366x768) will display 720p material properly from any source, not just sage. They all have to scale the image at some point (there aren't any 768p videos that I'm aware of). The best options are to either set the HD200 to do the scaling, by setting it to 1366x768 (1360x768 on some sets) - which has the problem of not sticking to that resolution - or have the HD200 output 1080p and let the set scale it down to it's resolution (better results than scaling UP from 720 to 768).

(Is this where I should mention that my i3 based client drives my 1360x768 set perfectly in its native resolution).. ;-)

[valnar]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

no false 720p display (1366x768) will display 720p material properly from any source, not just sage. They all have to scale the image at some point (there aren't any 768p videos that I'm aware of). The best options are to either set the HD200 to do the scaling, by setting it to 1366x768 (1360x768 on some sets) - which has the problem of not sticking to that resolution - or have the HD200 output 1080p and let the set scale it down to it's resolution (better results than scaling UP from 720 to 768).

(Is this where I should mention that my i3 based client drives my 1360x768 set perfectly in its native resolution).. ;-)

I suppose this is a question for Sage, but with so many 1366x768 displays, shouldn't it be a standard option?

[Taddeusz]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

(Is this where I should mention that my i3 based client drives my 1360x768 set perfectly in its native resolution).. ;-)

Kind of off topic but I've been thinking about putting a real full client in the living room. I can't really necessitate the expense right now though. Too many things going on where money is needed elsewhere.

[Naylia]

How do we know that the HD200's scaler is any better than the tv's scaler...none of your video is in 1366x768. I guess it might make the UI crisper.

[Fuzzy]

yeah, the only way i justified the expense for my bedroom was that the HD200 was out of stock, and the old MediaMVP that we were using with the old 19" CRT looked REALLY bad on the 32" LCD. I had some spare parts laying around (harddrive, USB-UIRT, USB-Serial cable for TV control), so the overall cost wasn't that much more than an HD200 would have been, and I end up with some better capabilities (like the tv control, for one).

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Naylia

How do we know that the HD200's scaler is any better than the tv's scaler...none of your video is in 1366x768. I guess it might make the UI crisper.

It's not a matter of which scaler is better, but whether scaling twice is better than scaling once. If you have 1080 material, set the HD200 to 720p output, and then the set displays it at 768p, it'll not be ideal at all. I suppose if the set DOES have a good scaler in it (most of these 768 sets are on the cheaper end of the spectrum, and probably don't), then best option would be to keep the HD200 in either Native switching, or 1080p.