STV Import: TVExplorer for the Default STV

[robmich]

Thanks for the reply. I installed the "early adopters" version for V7 you posted. That is the one with no cursor highlights..

I appreiciate the hard work, and totally understand the need for patience. Now my wife, well that is another story....LOL.

Rob

[razrsharpe]

@robmich - Tom's dl is missing some images... If you can't wait for the official plugin you can get them by copying the contents of the /images dir from toms v6 port to /stvs/sagetv7/tvexplorer/images

[robmich]

Thank you sir! That took care of it.. WAF greatly improved.

Rob

[ranger]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

@robmich - Tom's dl is missing some images... If you can't wait for the official plugin you can get them by copying the contents of the /images dir from toms v6 port to /stvs/sagetv7/tvexplorer/images

This solved a lot of problems. IMHO this is one of 5 essential plugins for SageTV. Thanks so much

[sundansx]

I just started using this plugin and it looks pretty good. A problem I found for me is that it truncates the name of a episode if it is over 25 characters. For instance:
a title like "Doctor Who - The Time of Angles; Flesh and Stone"
Shows "Doctor Who" on the left column and "The time of Angles; Flesh..." in the right hand column (episode list).
Anyone else have this problem?
I tried to change the Episode->Title Length setting and it does not seem to affect this.
thanks.

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by sundansx

I just started using this plugin and it looks pretty good. A problem I found for me is that it truncates the name of a episode if it is over 25 characters. For instance:
a title like "Doctor Who - The Time of Angles; Flesh and Stone"
Shows "Doctor Who" on the left column and "The time of Angles; Flesh..." in the right hand column (episode list).
Anyone else have this problem?
I tried to change the Episode->Title Length setting and it does not seem to affect this.
thanks.

First, are you running the latest version (1.01.040) and did you ensure you didn't import over a previous one which had TVE already imported? My title length is set to 45 and does not truncate. The same episode is shown in the attached screenshot. Second, is your font set too big? Mines is at 12. Is your group panel width too wide? Mine is at .05.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by sundansx

I just started using this plugin and it looks pretty good. A problem I found for me is that it truncates the name of a episode if it is over 25 characters. For instance:
a title like "Doctor Who - The Time of Angles; Flesh and Stone"
Shows "Doctor Who" on the left column and "The time of Angles; Flesh..." in the right hand column (episode list).
Anyone else have this problem?
I tried to change the Episode->Title Length setting and it does not seem to affect this.
thanks.

I know this used to work in the sagemc version (havent tested recently... but do know that its longer then 25)... havent tested the default version to be sure..

Originally Posted by Skirge01

First, are you running the latest version (1.01.040) and did you ensure you didn't import over a previous one which had TVE already imported? My title length is set to 45 and does not truncate. The same episode is shown in the attached screenshot. Second, is your font set too big? Mines is at 12. Is your group panel width too wide? Mine is at .05.

and just an fyi 1.1.40 was only ever released for sagemc... the version for the default stv is based on 1.1.28 (iirc)... however this shouldnt matter for this particular problem as nothing was changed in that code between .28 and .40 (again iirc )

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

I know this used to work in the sagemc version (havent tested recently... but do know that its longer then 25)... havent tested the default version to be sure..


and just an fyi 1.1.40 was only ever released for sagemc... the version for the default stv is based on 1.1.28 (iirc)... however this shouldnt matter for this particular problem as nothing was changed in that code between .28 and .40 (again iirc )

Good catch. I should verify which TVE thread I'm posting in! Hopefully the rest of my info applies, even though I was basing it off of the SageMC version I'm running.

[sundansx]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

First, are you running the latest version (1.01.040) and did you ensure you didn't import over a previous one which had TVE already imported? My title length is set to 45 and does not truncate. The same episode is shown in the attached screenshot. Second, is your font set too big? Mines is at 12. Is your group panel width too wide? Mine is at .05.

I just downloaded the regular stv version, newest one (1.01.028). Never had it installed before. I do have other stvis loaded:
Comskip playback1.5.2
dynamic menu import
displayresolution_on_timebar_for defualtstv

Running sage v 6.6.1.217 on XP sp2
Browser font size = 12 (default)
group panel width = .3 (default)


included screenshot of problem.

[sundansx]

I have another question: What are the steps to get fan art working (to get it to look like the "advertisement"). I just figured I could install phoenix, TVE, and run some sort of grabber engine that got some jpegs and made metadata files (grabbed mediascraper and ran it). There is a bunch of info on the forums, but alot applies to the sageMC version and I am not sure what applies to this one. The directions for this one don't seem to cover it at all.
thanks.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by sundansx

I just downloaded the regular stv version, newest one (1.01.028). Never had it installed before. I do have other stvis loaded:
Comskip playback1.5.2
dynamic menu import
displayresolution_on_timebar_for defualtstv

Running sage v 6.6.1.217 on XP sp2
Browser font size = 12 (default)
group panel width = .3 (default)


included screenshot of problem.

i dont have a v6 server anymore (i think i might have one in a vm somewhere to test...) maybe someone else can confirm if this works or not in the default version?

Originally Posted by sundansx

I have another question: What are the steps to get fan art working (to get it to look like the "advertisement"). I just figured I could install phoenix, TVE, and run some sort of grabber engine that got some jpegs and made metadata files (grabbed mediascraper and ran it). There is a bunch of info on the forums, but alot applies to the sageMC version and I am not sure what applies to this one. The directions for this one don't seem to cover it at all.
thanks.

you need to get bmt setup and working properly (that is the grabber)... most all the metadata/fanart info for the bmt version are the same for the default version

[sundansx]

Well I got BMT mostly set up (couldn't see fanart yet) but I found a big snag that I wanted to ask someone about before I continued...
I setup BMT via the guides and then I had BMT scan via it's jetty webpage. Troubling thing is that it had problems identifying some of the shows recorded. Like the show "chuck" with filenames like
"Chuck-ChuckVersustheSubwayChuckVersustheRingPartII-9512057-0.mpg"
It messed up identifying the episode name and the episode was labeled wrong in the UI. I saw some things on the forum about filenaming...Does BMT have problems identifying episodes because it is using only the filename for reference? Since this is a compound episode, that it would be very difficult to figure out what the whole name is. and 24 was a real bust, since it has strange episode names.

I am guessing that the metadata that sage has (in wiz.bin) is not available for BMT to use for this? How do you guys work around this? Manually rename files?

Has this changed in v7?
thanks for all your help, guys (and gals if applicable)

[ranger]

Recent changes in BMT 4.1 and 4.2 pretty much make the TVE port for the default UI in V7 non-functional for me. After upgrading to 4.2, I had to re-import a few folders containing entire TV Series. For those re-imported series, the episode panel in TVE only displays the series name and not the episode name. Is this something that can be fixed? I looked at the code and just don't have the skill required.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by ranger

For those re-imported series, the episode panel in TVE only displays the series name and not the episode name. Is this something that can be fixed? I looked at the code and just don't have the skill required.

yes it can be fixed... but my guess (without running bmt 4.1/.2) is sean removing the title masks in the most recent builds is the problem. My guess is that it will need to be fixed in the tve jar... unfortunately the fix will probably break all metadata done before 4.1 so you'll have to recreate all the metadata with 4.1 or later.... No ETA one when I'll get to checking out a fix but I'll try to figure it out sometime soon.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

yes it can be fixed... but my guess (without running bmt 4.1/.2) is sean removing the title masks in the most recent builds is the problem. My guess is that it will need to be fixed in the jar... unfortunately the fix will probably break all metadata done before 4.1 so you'll have to recreate all the metadata with 4.1 or later.... No ETA one when I'll get to checking out a fix but I'll try to figure it out sometime soon.

Title masks have been removed, since I think that the UI should control how the titles are rendered, and not BMT

That being said, in the pre 4.1 release, BMT would populate a custom field, "EpisodeTitle" with the episode title, and it would popule the "Title" field with the Show Name, ie, "House", "CSI: Miami", etc. In 4.1+ builds, SageTV has a field EpisodeName, which holds the Show's Episode Title, so I'm using that field.

So, if you want to make your code work in all the 4.x releases, you'd want to call GetMediaFileMetadata("EpisodeName") and if that returns nothing, then call, GetMediaFileMetadata("EpisodeTitle"). You can get the show title using GetMediaFileMetadata("Title").

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by stuckless

So, if you want to make your code work in all the 4.x releases, you'd want to call GetMediaFileMetadata("EpisodeName") and if that returns nothing, then call, GetMediaFileMetadata("EpisodeTitle"). You can get the show title using GetMediaFileMetadata("Title").

Thanks for the pointer in the right direction... without digging into it that's exactly what i think the problem is... and is easy enough to fix

Can I ask why you started to use EpisodeName instead of EpisodeTitle? Is EpisodeName a default field now that i somehow missed?

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

Thanks for the pointer in the right direction... without digging into it that's exactly what i think the problem is... and is easy enough to fix

Can I ask why you started to use EpisodeName instead of EpisodeTitle? Is EpisodeName a default field now that i somehow missed?

In Sage7, Sage is exposing pretty much all metadata for RW. EpisodeName is a core Sage field that holds the episode title. In Sage6, we couldn't actually update the EpisodeName, so we needed to add a new field, EpisodeTitle to hold it. This is no longer the case.

BTW... I just noticed from another post, another change that bmt 4.1 did. Previously in pre 4.1 releases, the UserRating field held a String that was extracted from some source, which could be, "9.5", "9.5/10", etc. In 4.1+, each of my providers will pull out the UserRating field and convert it to a number between 0 and 100. ie, a rating of "9.5" is actually stored as 95 and a rating of "8.5/10" is stored as 85. This was done to make dealing with the ratings more usable from a UI perspective. But again, this pushes this back to the plugins to ensure that if they display a user rating, then they can choose to display it as number, fraction or even graphically.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by stuckless

In Sage7, Sage is exposing pretty much all metadata for RW. EpisodeName is a core Sage field that holds the episode title. In Sage6, we couldn't actually update the EpisodeName, so we needed to add a new field, EpisodeTitle to hold it. This is no longer the case.

ahhh... yes now i remember

In 4.1+, each of my providers will pull out the UserRating field and convert it to a number between 0 and 100.

thanks for the heads up... dont think i use UserRating at all in TVE but good to know for future reference and with a consistent format will be much easier to deal with

[ohpleaseno]

Originally Posted by robmich

Installed the ported stvi in the old fashioned way, made sure I have all the .jars. Where does TVE show up? Do I have to do something else. Running the v7 beta and serenity theme..

Rob

Same question. I didn't have the duh moment he had where he found it.

[ohpleaseno]

Originally Posted by ohpleaseno

Same question. I didn't have the duh moment he had where he found it.

To be more specific, I've installed TV Explorer for v7, but can't find where to access it in the UI. Any help?