Dish Network support?

[dp1795]

I've been following the PVR software scene for a while, and this product looks like the first thing that actually could work well for high quality recording and networked playback.

Questions:
How would you setup for Dish Network receiver control?

I know there are some IR devices which would be required, is there custom setup required as well to program the remote codes?

Any documentation on this?

Thanks,
Darren

[SHS]

A ready come with Dish Network IR file being this receiver is real pain neck to get working all you do when add com post pick DishSatelliteReceiver1 and you all set.

[Mark Lamutt]

To clarify:

To use SageTV with Dish Network, you must have an Actisys IR-200L IR transmitter. The files you need to control the Actisys for a Dish Network receiver are included with SageTV. You will need to have your Dish receiver set to remote address 1. If there's demand for it, we will create the control files to control different Dish Network remote addresses as well.

I've been using SageTV with Dish Network for about 4 months now, and it does work really well.

[dp1795]

Great to hear that works well with Dish receiver and already have control file.

Which receivers does it support?

I have the 6000 and an olders standard def one.

-Darren

[SHS]

Just make sure the your remote is on Remote Address 1 for the Dish receiver you can see in the push on SYS Info button if have one then it should work, I have DishNetworks 301

[Mark Lamutt]

It should support every dish receiver except possibly the Dishplayer because I don't believe that the remote address 1 IR codes for the number keys have ever changed. I might be wrong about this, but I don't think so. Personally, I have used the IR control on a 2800, a 4900, a 6000, a 501, and a 508.

[mslabaugh]

I have a dish network model 3000 and a uhf controlled model 4000 circa 1996.

I have tried several things to get ir controll of my stb using an act ir200L. your product shows the most promise for me but it only has about a 20% cance of working per digit. I tried setting up a file for my controller and my results were.

dish 57600 358 3 600 1000
compared to
DishNetwork 40069 520 3 600 1000

So it looks like a different bit rate and carrier freq. But that could be from bad readings. While searching online I found the website http://ir.premisesystems.com/search....l=300050003700

and they had a code for "1" of
0000 0046 0000 000B 0019 0252 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 00AB 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115

I am not sure what this might mean ( I was hoping some one here did) your standard "1" is

566 n fe ff f7 ef df f7 df bf 7f ff fe fd fb f7 ff df bf 7f df bf ff fe fd fb f7 ef df ff 7f ff fe 7d ff fe fd f7 ef df bf 7f

I thought their number maybe needed to be translated into hex and then I saw a 000b and 00ab. I dont know if this is any help because I didnt help me. I am also a bit upset that my friend can change channels with a sony clio but I cant get it with about 3 different programs. I dont want to upgrade stb unless its a HD decoder (for my hd ready tv) so I do want to get this to work.

Does anyone have any insight on older equipment? or some new things to try? I only have about 6 days left on my trial and I am glad that I can get at least some response with this product.

[SHS]

I was reading this
http://www.carltonbale.com/dish/4000/
when I come cross this maybe this help you

To tell the satellite receiver to look for an IR signal, you will need to activate IR in the satellite receiver software. The UHF portion of the remote will continue to operate as normal, you're just adding the IR. Using your UHF remote (or front panel buttons on the receiver), power on the receiver and enter the following key sequence:

Menu
6 ("System Setup" menu item)
1 ("Installation" menu item)
3 ("System Info" menu item)
This will bring you to a screen showing specific system info. From this screen, you will activate the IR by pressing the following key sequence:
Info
Browse (Right arrow button)
Theme (Left arrow button)
The screen will redraw and the letters "IR" will appear next to the Remote Address number.

[Mark Lamutt]

Originally posted by mslabaugh
I have a dish network model 3000 and a uhf controlled model 4000 circa 1996.

I have tried several things to get ir controll of my stb using an act ir200L. your product shows the most promise for me but it only has about a 20% cance of working per digit. I tried setting up a file for my controller and my results were.

dish 57600 358 3 600 1000
compared to
DishNetwork 40069 520 3 600 1000

So it looks like a different bit rate and carrier freq. But that could be from bad readings.

Did you try the included Dish network .IR file? The reason your readings are different is that the Actisys has a really hard time reading the Dish network carrier frequency. We had to jump through a lot of hoops to get the included .IR file to work. The included file should work just fine with your 3000 and your 4000 if you installed the IR mod for it. If your 4000 is only UHF, then you won't be able to use the actisys with it.

While searching online I found the website http://ir.premisesystems.com/search....l=300050003700

and they had a code for "1" of
0000 0046 0000 000B 0019 0252 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 00AB 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115 0019 0115

I am not sure what this might mean ( I was hoping some one here did) your standard "1" is

566 n fe ff f7 ef df f7 df bf 7f ff fe fd fb f7 ff df bf 7f df bf ff fe fd fb f7 ef df ff 7f ff fe 7d ff fe fd f7 ef df bf 7f

I thought their number maybe needed to be translated into hex and then I saw a 000b and 00ab. I dont know if this is any help because I didnt help me.

The code formats are different - the first one you listed that you found on that website is pulse width modulation. The actisys uses amplitude modulation. I.e. - different languages.

I am also a bit upset that my friend can change channels with a sony clio but I cant get it with about 3 different programs. I dont want to upgrade stb unless its a HD decoder (for my hd ready tv) so I do want to get this to work.

Not following you here...you won't have to upgrade your dish receiver until you want to. We'll get you working with your 3000. First, make sure you are using the included Dish Network .IR file. Then, make sure that your actisys is plugged into COM1, not COM2. Make sure that it is pointing towards the IR port on your 3000 - see the picture that Dan posted on page 2 of this Thread. If doing all of that doesn't get you working, then start playing with the IR delays, increasing them. You may need to increase them because your older receiver may take a little longer to read the IR stream in general. Give all of that a shot, and then let us know.

[mslabaugh]

ok.. I have played with it some more. yes I am using your dish .ir file (copied to a different name so I can make changes)

after makeing a few changes to the ir delay all the way up to 1500 I noticed a few things and started taking notes

1 worked three out of 12 tries or 25%
2 7/12
3 3/12
4 5/12
5 12/12
6 12/12
7 7/12
8 2/12
9 12/12
0 12/12

so as long as i want a channel with only the numbers 5,6,9 I am golden.(lol) I played with the delays some more and noticed that the default 600 worked fine for the numbers that it could hit. I have tried placing the 200L in both the position in your refered to picture and 3-4 in straight in front pointed right at the sensor. Neither seemed to have an advantage over the other as long as I tried 5,6 or 9. Therefore I am starting to believe I need some different codes for the other numbers (though some I am sure are closer than others). I tried to just reprogram a number and it locked up my machine. I am sure this was caused by the program looking for a specific carrier/bitrate and not seeing it coming from my remote. (100% cpu time waiting and it was easier to restart than wait for controll). I tried just programing new codes hoping that I could paste those under the correct carrieer/bitrate and I got this.
dish 57600 359 0 600 800
1 27 n fe ff fb
9 r fe
15 r be
2 27 n fe ff fb
9 r fe
15 r be
3 27 n fe ff fb
9 r fe
21 r be ef
4 27 n fe ff fb
9 r fe
15 r be

obviously not enough data ( or similar enough to be of use to me though someone may have a suggestion.)

Does anyone have any ideas on some new codes to try for a few digits or a systematic approach for changing / trying new numbers.

sidebar------ I am almost tempted to just copy and make a few changes to the ir file and see which changes may work better. It would be easier to make a program an type in the numbers as they apear and let the program permutate and deceide which changes bring the best results, but I dont have the programing knowledge or the knowledge of the ir driver to make that happen.

one more side note: I am running this on a 2100+xp machine running windows xp pro. could a faster processor screw up the timing compared to a slower 600? or is the timing taken care of with the system clocks so the cpu is actually waiting to start\stop the pulses?

[wysocki]

To use SageTV with Dish Network, you must have an Actisys IR-200L IR transmitter.

Can I use my Slinke/Xantach emitters instead of buying more hardware? I already have a ton of IR gear and for all the money I'm spending, I could hire someone to just stand there and manually run my home theater for me.

[Narflex]

You can also use Girder, it likely supports that hardware

[msurebel]

I can't seem to get my Dishnetwork recievers to work either. My reciever is by Macrovision, model 2700. It would not automatically set up in Sage, so I built an IR file from codes off of remotecentral. Following is what I have, can someone tell me what is wrong?

DishTwo 37616 411 3 600 1000
RepeatCount 10
1 0000 0047 0000 000b 0016 0222 0017 0101 0017 00fe 0017 009d 0017 00ff 0017 0101 0016 0100 0016 0100 0016 0100 0016 0100 0016 00fe
2 0000 0047 0000 000b 0016 0222 0017 0101 0017 00fe 0017 009d 0017 00fe 0017 009f 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00fd
3 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fd 0017 00fa 0017 009a 0017 009b 0017 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00f9
4 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009b 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fd 0016 00fc 0016 00fc 0016 00fc 0016 00fc 0016 00fa
5 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009b 0017 00fb 0017 00fa 0017 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00f9
6 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009b 0017 00fa 0017 009b 0017 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00f9
7 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009a 0017 009b 0017 00fb 0017 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00f9
8 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009a 0017 009b 0017 00fb 0016 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
9 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009a 0017 009b 0016 009c 0016 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
0 0000 0047 0000 000b 0016 0222 0016 009f 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00fe 0017 009f 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00fd
Select 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fd 0016 00fc 0016 00fc 0016 00fc 0016 00fc 0016 00fa
Browse 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fa 0017 009b 0016 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Guide 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009d 0017 00fa 0017 009b 0016 009b 0017 009c 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Jump 0000 0047 0000 000b 0016 0222 0017 009f 0017 00fe 0017 009d 0017 00ff 0017 0101 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00fd
Menu 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009b 0017 00fa 0017 009b 0016 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Up 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009c 0017 009b 0017 00fb 0016 009c 0016 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Down 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009c 0017 009b 0016 009b 0017 009b 0017 00fc 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Left 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009c 0017 009b 0016 009c 0016 00fc 0016 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Right 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009c 0017 009b 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00f9
View 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009d 0017 00fa 0017 009b 0016 009c 0016 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Info 0000 0047 0000 000b 0016 0222 0017 0101 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 0100 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00ff 0017 00fe
Cancel 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fa 0017 009b 0017 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00f9
Guide Page Up 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fd 0017 00fb 0017 00fa 0017 009a 0017 009d 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00f9
Guide PA Dn 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0017 00fc 0017 009a 0017 009b 0016 009b 0017 009c 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Sys Info 0000 0048 0000 000b 0016 021a 0016 009c 0017 009b 0017 00fb 0016 009b 0017 009c 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fb 0017 00fa
Power 0000 0047 0000 000b 0016 0222 0017 0101 0017 00ff 0017 00fe 0017 009d 0017 0101 0016 0100 0017 0100 0016 0100 0016 0100 0016 00fe

[davephan]

When I had Dish Network and a JVC 301 receiver, I used the following IR file named JVC301.ir with a USB-UIRT:

jvc301 56000 411 2 200 200
RepeatCount 5
0 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0162 0017 00A3 0016 0061 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A2 0016 0061 0016 00A2 0016 00A3 0016 00A2 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A2 0016 00A3 0016 00A0
1 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0162 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 0061 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A1
2 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0164 0016 00A3 0016 00A4 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 00A4 0016 00A4 0017 00A3 0016 00A4 0016 00A3 0016 00A4 0016 00A4 0016 00A4 0016 00A1
3 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0162 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A1
4 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0163 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A1
5 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0161 0017 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 0061 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 0061 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A0
6 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0161 0017 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 0061 0016 00A2 0016 0061 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0017 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A0
7 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0160 0017 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 0061 0016 0061 0017 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0017 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A2 0016 00A0
8 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0163 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 0062 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A1
9 0000 0048 0000 0011 0017 0162 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 0062 0017 0061 0016 0061 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0016 00A3 0017 00A3 0016 00A1

[davephan]

When I had Dish Network, I had some trouble getting the USB-UIRT to work with the JVC 301 reciever (before I deployed the JVC301.ir file. There is an IR Helper utility that will let you see the data that is received by the USB-UIRT by your remote control(s).

Dave