SA Explorer 8300HD sleep issue

[dvd_maniac]

I have a SA Explorer 8300HD DVR box that likes to go to sleep after a little while. This causes the channel not to change correctly when waking up.
It does not seem to recognize the first 1 or 2 digits. Is there a way to either have every channel change repeat itself after a certain delay or send a non-numerical signal from a USB-UIRT to the cable box every hour or so to keep it awake but would not interfere with any recording?

[Clift]

STB Keep Alive:
http://forums.sage.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=35228

[dvd_maniac]

STBKEEPALIVE worked fine for me until I upgraded to Win7 64Bit.

Now I am wondering how I can deal with this.
I had Sage learn a New Command under Tuner Control in the Source setup and added that as a prefix for channel changes.
However, it is not long enough to wake the STB before changing the channel. It does not miss the first two digits anymore but still misses the first one.

Is there a way to either add a delay after the prefix or to combine 2 commands to be the prefix?

[gplasky]

Can you use a batch file in the prefix to send stbkeepalive twice?

Gerry

[dvd_maniac]

STBkeepalive does not seem to work in Win7 64Bit.
I am using Sage to send the prefix and was wondering if there is a way to send two command via the channel prefix?

[zoundz]

I have SageTV send a modified 0 (zero) command to my SA8250HD as a prefix.

This code is the same as the 0 but has the last number modified to make it repeat longer. This sends a very long zero to the unit before sending the channel change. Works for me. You can add this to the USBUIRT command file and give it a try. Should be one line with no <crlf>s.

Of course YMMV.

wake 0000 0048 0000 0018 00BF 00C2 002F 0093 002F 0093 002F 0031 002F 0093 002F 0093 002F 0093 002F 0031 002F 0031 002F 0093 002F 0093 002F 0031 002F 0031 002F 0031 002F 0093 002F 0031 0030 0031 002F 0031 002F 0093 002F 0093 002F 0031 002F 0031 002F 0093 002F 4000

[dvd_maniac]

zoundz,

I tried adding the wake command to my file and it takes it fine.
However, I get the following 2 issues:

1. It sends the long '0' code to all my cable boxes instead of just the one for some reason. I only put it in the one USB-UIRT Remote Command file and do not have this problem with any other codes. It looks like it is sending one to many 0's

2. After sending all the codes it changes to the channel of only the last digit.

Could you possibly send me your file and a screen shot of your remote options for your DVR box?

[dvd_maniac]

Is it possible to group 2 commands together?

[zoundz]

Originally Posted by dvd_maniac

zoundz,

I tried adding the wake command to my file and it takes it fine.
However, I get the following 2 issues:

1. It sends the long '0' code to all my cable boxes instead of just the one for some reason. I only put it in the one USB-UIRT Remote Command file and do not have this problem with any other codes. It looks like it is sending one to many 0's

2. After sending all the codes it changes to the channel of only the last digit.

Could you possibly send me your file and a screen shot of your remote options for your DVR box?

As I said YMMV. I don't know exactly what you mean by "all my cable boxes". If you are using zones on the USB-UIRT then you will need to add the appropriate zone code to the long 0. I only have one box (it's a 3250, not an 8250 - my bad) and it is running on the default remote code. If you are running alternate remote codes, you may need to run LRNHelper.exe and learn the 0 code for your box. the last 4 hex digits (4000) on my long zero is the one that makes it "long". You change that from whatever it is to 4000.

I have the delay between codes set to 200ms and the repeat count set to 5. I've found that the repeat count is critical to making the whole thing work. If it is too low, numbers are missed. If it is too high they repeat and screw up the channel change. "onoff" is the name of the long zero code in my ir codes.

This might be a help with the code format.

http://www.remotecentral.com/features/irdisp1.htm

You can piss around with the codes until they do what you want...

Here's my remote options setting screen:

[timg11]

zoundz,

I'm also having problems getting STBKeepAlive to work with Windows 7.

Your idea of the "modified 0 (zero) command" to make it longer is intriguing. I'm wondering if I can make it work with my SA-8300HDC.

Since all the channels I tune are 4 digit and start with a 1, I guess I'd have to make a modified "1" command along similar lines. But then if I need to change to channels 1241 or 1511, do the other "1" digits cause problems if they are also extended?

On the other hand, I'm not using the Prefix Code. In my .IR file, I see 10 rows of IR codes for the digits 0-9. Can I add another row for the "prefix code"? The dialog for changing the prefix code contains only the single digits 0 through 9. If I paste in a new row into the .IR file with a label of "P", will "P" be added as an option for the prefix code?

[zoundz]

Originally Posted by timg11

zoundz,

<snip>

On the other hand, I'm not using the Prefix Code. In my .IR file, I see 10 rows of IR codes for the digits 0-9. Can I add another row for the "prefix code"? The dialog for changing the prefix code contains only the single digits 0 through 9. If I paste in a new row into the .IR file with a label of "P", will "P" be added as an option for the prefix code?

Yes.

AFAIK you can have as many lines as you want in the .IR file. My modified 0 command is called "onoff" in my .IR file (as in the screencap above) and is totally separate from the digit zero. If you follow the link to the information about the Pronto format, you can piss around with the remote codes until you get the results you're looking for.

[dvd_maniac]

OK,
I got the long "0" to work. I simply had to change my digits from 3 to 4.
It seems to wake and change the channel perfectly.
The only problem I am still having is that whenever it sends the long "0" it sends them to every zone in the usb-uirt. I do not understand how this is posssible but it is annoying. It is the long "0" that is sneding over every zone since I do not have any other issues with any other digits.
If my other cable box is recording something it will open up the channel change and info dialog box on that set top box, but at least it does not change the channel as "0" is not a valid channel.
Do you have any other long codes I could try out which might not interfere with other usb-uirt zones?

[zoundz]

Originally Posted by dvd_maniac

OK,
<snip>
The only problem I am still having is that whenever it sends the long "0" it sends them to every zone in the usb-uirt.
<snip>

Not to pound the obvious nails here, but I'm assuming that you added the appropriate Z1, Z2, Z3 to the beginning of the long 0 to control the zones?

If not, then you need to make the beginning of it go "wake Zn0000" instead of "wake 0000"