STV Import: TVExplorer for SageMC

[Skirge01]

@razrsharpe: I added a couple of items from these discussions to the tracker, but I didn't see a way to flag them as something other than "defect".

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

@razrsharpe: I added a couple of items from these discussions to the tracker, but I didn't see a way to flag them as something other than "defect".

ya i dont think you can... i (as the owner of the project) need to review and change them to the appropriate "type"... i think that's just how google code works.... (ive had the same issue when reporting enhancements for sjq, etc)

and thanks for adding them to the site, now i wont forget about them

a general FYI.... we're talking about the TVE google code site. That is where i am keeping track of any/all issues... feel free to report them there

EDIT: i added a new report template ... so you should be able to choose the enhancement template now which will have the Type set correctly...

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

and thanks for adding them to the site, now i wont forget about them

I figured it's the least I could do for stuff I'd like added/fixed. I know that fixing the filters so that you can combine them is in the works for v2, as is the "jump" capability, so I didn't think I needed to add them.

[Islander]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

that property file looks ok... if the movie filter is set to "No Filter" what happens? I will check tonight if setting the movie filter to "exclude" also removes imported tv on my setup... it shouldn't but who knows

This is what happens with the different Movie filters:

No Filters : Both Movies and Imported show. If I have imported and recorded (or imported converted to recorded) then I get two groupings for those shows.

Include: Only Movies show.

Exclude: Neither Movies nor imported shows appear on the list.

Does that make sense?

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by Islander

This is what happens with the different Movie filters:

No Filters : Both Movies and Imported show. If I have imported and recorded (or imported converted to recorded) then I get two groupings for those shows.

Include: Only Movies show.

Exclude: Neither Movies nor imported shows appear on the list.

Does that make sense?

No .... but i have confirmed that when the movie filter is set to exclude that this includes ALLL imported content (including TV)... this is a bug

re: no filters and multiple groups:.... this should not happen... as long as the title is the same (non case sensitive, punctuation included) they should group together... i just confirmed that this does work. The recorded title and imported tv need to match... ie what titles are displayed for the two groups? If they are identical they should be grouping together.... This is true for imported TV that is not imported as sage recordings... for imported tv that is imported as sage recordings the title mask in BMT needs to be set to only the title (it should be like this by default (as of 3.1...)....

[Islander]

Thanks for checking on the filter situation. Insofar as the grouping here are two properties files. The first one is for an imported video turned into a Sage recording and it groups with the others in the series which were also converted:


#Generator: Batch Metadata Tools (4.0-beta21); MediaFile: \\HPSERVER1\Downloaded Content\Air Force Afghanistan\Season 1\Air Force Afghanistan - S01E06 - Episode 6.avi
#Sun Apr 04 22:43:35 GMT-05:00 2010
Description=In this the last in the series of the behind-the-scenes look at life on Kandahar Airbase Afghanistan the RAF Hercules crew goes on a mission to drop an engine off to a stranded Chinook in the middle of the desert, then they head onto Kabul for their next delivery and a rare treat \u2013 a Thai take-away. The RAF Regiment ventures outside the wire to investigate the home of a relative of the Afghan President. Flight Sergeant Jones gets news that he\u2019s a father for the first time and tries to get a flight home to the UK to see his new baby daughter.
EpisodeNumber=6
EpisodeTitle=Episode 6
Genre=Documentary
MediaProviderDataID=99001
MediaTitle=Air Force Afghanistan
MediaType=TV
OriginalAirDate=2009-07-17
RunningTime=3600000
SeasonNumber=1
Title=Air Force Afghanistan
UserRating=0
Year=2009
x-MetadataProviderId=tvdb
x-ser-Genres=Documentary

IMDBID=

DiscNumber=


And this is for the one imported episode not converted to Sage recording (a pure breed imported if you want):


#Generator: Batch Metadata Tools (4.0-beta21); MediaFile: \\HPSERVER1\Downloaded Content\Air Force Afghanistan\Season 1\Air Force Afghanistan - S01E04.avi
#Sat Apr 10 09:27:10 GMT-05:00 2010
Description=In this episode of the access-all-areas documentary series narrated by Dexter Fletcher a Chinook Pilot is put through his paces when he learns to land his helicopter in the dustbowl of the Afghan desert. The engineers take on a mammoth task \u2013 putting together a flat-packed helicopter that has been flown in from the UK. The airbase hospital prepares for a mass casualty after a suicide bomb goes off in nearby Kandahar city. And a Royal Marine practices his moves at the twice-weekly Salsa dancing class.
EpisodeNumber=4
EpisodeTitle=Episode 4
Genre=Documentary
MediaProviderDataID=99001
MediaTitle=Air Force Afghanistan
MediaType=TV
OriginalAirDate=2009-07-03
RunningTime=3600000
SeasonNumber=1
Title=Air Force Afghanistan
UserRating=0
Year=2009
x-MetadataProviderId=tvdb
x-ser-Genres=Documentary


Anything in there that would be causing the different grouping besides the pure imported and imported turned Sage recording distinction? Thanks.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by Islander

Anything in there that would be causing the different grouping besides the pure imported and imported turned Sage recording distinction? Thanks.

going purely by the .properties files those should group correctly... can you attach the screenshot for those files from the bmtweb interface (you can attach the jpg to the post with "Manage Attachments"... underneath the reply editor)?

[Islander]

I have attached the two SS as requested. Thanks.

[razrsharpe]

yup both of those should group correctly (from my understanding of what maps to what, etc, etc)... i will try sometime in the next couple days to install bmt 4.0 (still using 3.1), and recreate your filenames and structure and see what happens...

[Islander]

Hopefully this bit of info will help.

Earlier on in the thread I pasted the webserver info for an episode of one of the series that was not showing unless I used the movies filter: [Notice the show id information]

Gilligans Island/Season 1/Gilligan's Island
Episode: Gilligan's Island
Aired: Apr 1, 2010 7:23 AM - 7:48 AM
Duration: 25 m
Description: The shipwrecked castaways awaken to find themselves marooned on an uncharted island, so Gilligan and Skipper set out on a flimsy raft to find civilization.
Category: Comedy - 1964
Run Time: 30 minutes
Show ID: MF1109065

With my limited knowledge I believe that "MF" represents imported. If I were to convert this to a sage recording either by using the webserver or BMT then the prefix of the ID will change to "EP".

In playing around with the info button while focused on a given episode I noticed that the information provided circles around to one view which includes the show id.

By doing this I was able to determine that the different grouping appear to occur because the grouping seems to be using the prefix at least of the show id. In the case of the two AF episodes linker earlier in the thread the one not appearing is "MF" the one appearing as well as the others in that group on that series are "EP". I checked every single show with multiple showings and that is what the groupings appear to have in common.

Not sure if it is just pure coincidence but thought to pass it along in case it helps.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by Islander

By doing this I was able to determine that the different grouping appear to occur because the grouping seems to be using the prefix at least of the show id. In the case of the two AF episodes linker earlier in the thread the one not appearing is "MF" the one appearing as well as the others in that group on that series are "EP". I checked every single show with multiple showings and that is what the groupings appear to have in common.

Not sure if it is just pure coincidence but thought to pass it along in case it helps.

TVE doesn't group using the show prefix at all.... its purely a "Show Title" string group. Perhaps BMT or something else is doing something weird when its a certain type of show (import, recorded, etc).... but from TVE's standpoint it doesn't care.

[Skirge01]

I don't know if this would even be technically possible, but thought I'd throw it out there. You know how Windows 7 (maybe Vista, too... never really used it) indicates download progress by filling in the window's taskbar entry? Would it be possible to do something like that for the watched progress in the episode listing or even group listing for movies? Not real time or perfectly accurate, rather I'm thinking of something in 1/8th or 1/10th increments. So, if you've watched some of an episode, but haven't reached the 1/8 mark of the show yet, the episode listing would indicate that with some sort of transparency overlayed on the episode title, shading in 1/8th of it's title listing.

If it's possible, I'd much rather have something like this versus the "partially watched" icon.

[razrsharpe]

@skirge - ya that's definitely possible... and actually probably not that difficult... in fact if you ever use the malore browser it does this... i never implemented it in TVE bc i didnt like how it looked... but then again i dont like how most of malore looks (hence why i wrote tve in the first place ) ... add an enhancement request to the project site so i dont forget about

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

@skirge - ya that's definitely possible... and actually probably not that difficult... in fact if you ever use the malore browser it does this... i never implemented it in TVE bc i didnt like how it looked... but then again i dont like how most of malore looks (hence why i wrote tve in the first place ) ... add an enhancement request to the project site so i dont forget about

yeah ben's old grouped recording screen did this. As did WAFTV (never released I know)

but it isn't possible on dvd's I don't believe

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

@skirge - ya that's definitely possible... and actually probably not that difficult... in fact if you ever use the malore browser it does this... i never implemented it in TVE bc i didnt like how it looked... but then again i dont like how most of malore looks (hence why i wrote tve in the first place ) ... add an enhancement request to the project site so i dont forget about

I'll be sure to add it, but I also want to see these Malore menus to see what I may not like about the implementation and what we (umm... you, hehe) could improve. I've been searching for about 20 minutes now and can't find any screenshots of this particular part. I did find a post (which I can't seem to find again) with some shots of the default UI with Malore menus, but not the feature I was asking about. Any links you know of? Thanks!

[razrsharpe]

see the attached image (youll see the highlighted bar in the right pane for watched area...)... you can also add this code snippit to your sagemc_menu.xml file and youll be able to load up the malore menus on your system from sagemc

                <internalScreenMenuItem icon="hover_my tv.png" screen="Malore Menus Default STV" title="Malore Menu">
                    <evalExpression> </evalExpression>
                </internalScreenMenuItem>

[Skirge01]

Thanks for posting that! Enable Malore Menus? What? And give up my precious TVE?!?! Blasphemy!

That said, what's in that image is definitely what I was thinking about. I'd have to see how well it overlays on the fanart before passing judgement, though. I was picturing a transparent, light gray which would hopefully be subtle, yet noticeable, but not dark enough to make the fanart unreadable.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Thanks for posting that! Enable Malore Menus? What? And give up my precious TVE?!?! Blasphemy!

That said, what's in that image is definitely what I was thinking about. I'd have to see how well it overlays on the fanart before passing judgement, though. I was picturing a transparent, light gray which would hopefully be subtle, yet noticeable, but not dark enough to make the fanart unreadable.

I think a small underline would be best (much smaller than that on waftv of course.

Picture

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Thanks for posting that! Enable Malore Menus? What? And give up my precious TVE?!?! Blasphemy!

oh no id never suggest that that was just something you could add to your existing menu so you can test it out... for example i have a whole TVE Dev submenu that has several shortcuts to load up the default sagemc tv, TVE in several different flavors, malore, etc

That said, what's in that image is definitely what I was thinking about. I'd have to see how well it overlays on the fanart before passing judgement, though. I was picturing a transparent, light gray which would hopefully be subtle, yet noticeable, but not dark enough to make the fanart unreadable.

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I think a small underline would be best (much smaller than that on waftv of course.

Picture

ya im thinking along the lines of pluckys screenshot except much smaller... think pencil line beneath the episode title

[Skirge01]

I think that looks okay, so long as it doesn't hide too much of the fanart. That's what drew me to the overlay instead. The thick bars plucky is showing seem too big for my taste. I also quickly noted that there weren't any fanart images on that shot. (Freudian slip? j/k) Then again, too thin and you won't be able to see the line. I could see a bright yellow line being used to ensure it's visible, but I could also see someone looking at it and thinking that the fanart image had a glitch!