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Old 07-22-2009, 11:10 AM
Chriscic Chriscic is offline
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Why do Sage scroll bars work differently than all the other scroll bars in the world?

Ok, "all the other scroll bars in the world" is an exaggeration. But the scroll bars in SageTV do not follow convention.

If you click in standard (read: all or nearly all) Windows scroll bar it will take you one screen length up or down. In SageTV, instead it moves the screen/list down proportionally... e.g., if you click in the bottom third it will take you straight to the bottom third of the list. With a normal scroll bar you would just click and drag the little box on the scroll bar to the bottom third of the scroll bar to do this.

Personally I find this very annoying. Not because it is functionally terrible, but because it flaunts convention (very important in a graphical interface) and causes me to frequently go to the wrong place in the list... I want to go down one screen but instead go down to the bottom of the list.

If there was a functional advantage to the unique Sage way here I would understand. But it seems unconventional for no reason.

Is there a user setting for this somewhere I am unaware of?

Before I get slapped down just keep in mind I only complain because I love Sage so much overall : )
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:29 PM
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I also don't like the scrollbars.
+1 for Sage to change this behaviour!
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:44 PM
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Another vote for standard scroll bar behavior.
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:36 PM
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+1 for the option to use standard scrollbars !
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Old 07-22-2009, 05:23 PM
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It was originally designed as a page up/page down function. Open your web browser and hit the page up/down keys, it does the same thing. In later versions, SageTV added the ability to scroll through the pages with the scroll bar, but it is still the page scroll bar and not the 3 line scroll bar you are used to. So to change it, they need to go back and implement a smooth or specified number of increments scroll bar.
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Old 07-22-2009, 07:22 PM
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+1

I use Sage all the time and have for a year but this still trips me up all the time.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:37 AM
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The few times I've touched a mouse to sage, I've noticed this inconsistancy as well. Would be nice if it was fixed.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:07 AM
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Quote:
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It was originally designed as a page up/page down function. Open your web browser and hit the page up/down keys, it does the same thing. In later versions, SageTV added the ability to scroll through the pages with the scroll bar, but it is still the page scroll bar and not the 3 line scroll bar you are used to. So to change it, they need to go back and implement a smooth or specified number of increments scroll bar.
The only thing Sage would have to change is the click behaviour with the mouse on the scrollbar, simply do a PgDown if clicked under current position, so a PgUp if clicked above current position. This way every scrollbar under Windows work. I don't thing this would break anything.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:20 AM
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Also, the hight of the scroll bars do not follow convention. If there is only 1.25 pages the scroll bar should extend to 80% of the available area. If there are 4 pages of information the scroll bar should only be 25% of the available area. This convention tells you how many pages of info with just a glance.

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Old 07-26-2009, 03:16 AM
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Mac scrollbars work this way. Why follow 90% of the world when you can follow 10%?
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:23 AM
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I for one LOVE the scroll to here function, and I turn it on for all my computers!
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