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Old 02-11-2009, 04:51 PM
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"No Signal": Silicon Dust HomeRun?

Been fooling around with my setup/LAN.

Figured I'd try to keep those two Silicon Dust boxes from dragging it back down to 100 mbps by moving them to a separate router that's plugged into a PCI Ethernet card in the SageTV server.

The server's "real" LAN connection is via the mobo's Ethernet.

With tuners on the separate router Silicon Dust's little management utility sees all 4 tuners and even shows a signal strength on one.

SageTV, however reports "No Signal" across the board.

Un-plug the tuner boxes from the extra router, plug them into the LAN's switch, re-boot SageTV, and all is will.

Go back the other way, and "No Signal".

Does anything jump out at anybody from this?

Next thing, I'm going to make up a crossover cable and try plugging a device directly in to the Ethernet card.

Update: No luck with the crossover cable.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:46 PM
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Forgive me if I am way off, I have not 'played' network tuners before but the first question I'd be asking myself if Sage can't see them is are they in the same subnet when attached this second nic?
If not, then if there is no way to specify an ip address for them in Sage then I can't see how it would ever see them. At the same time I don't know if you can run a second nic within the same space without issues, I've only ever tried with seperate subnets. Somebody with a greater knowledge than I would probably answer that without me having to research it.
I suppose I'm asking as much as answering and not being much help now, so I'll shut up and listen instead, lol.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:38 PM
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Pete,

What is the speed of the network card in your server. If it can support GigE then buy yourself a cheap 5 port GigE workgroup switch. I have heard of people hooking their HDHRs off a second nic but I'm not sure how they told the HDHR software to look on that non-default network route for it.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:53 PM
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Check your firewall settings by default hdhomerun enables it on the default nic you may need to enable it for the new nic.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:36 PM
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Not sure if this is your issue, but I had the same thing happen. Right after an HDHomerun install I was getting no signal in Sage. I rebooted my server that had sage on it and everything was fine.
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:37 PM
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What is the speed of the network card in your server. If it can support GigE then buy yourself a cheap 5 port GigE workgroup switch. I have heard of people hooking their HDHRs off a second nic but I'm not sure how they told the HDHR software to look on that non-default network route for it.
The server's NIC, the router, and everything else currently connected to the router run at 1 gig.

I think I understand the suggestion, but just want tb sure before I blow another forty bucks:
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My understanding is that if I plug a device that only runs at 100 mbps into the router, everybody gets dragged down to 100 mbps.

If, instead, I plugged a 1-gig switch into said router and then connected the 100-mbps device into to the switch would the rest of the LAN still be able to run at 1 gig?

i.e. Would a 1-gig switch isolate a 1-gig LAN from slower devices?
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:28 PM
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The server's NIC, the router, and everything else currently connected to the router run at 1 gig.

I think I understand the suggestion, but just want tb sure before I blow another forty bucks:
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My understanding is that if I plug a device that only runs at 100 mbps into the router, everybody gets dragged down to 100 mbps.

If, instead, I plugged a 1-gig switch into said router and then connected the 100-mbps device into to the switch would the rest of the LAN still be able to run at 1 gig?

i.e. Would a 1-gig switch isolate a 1-gig LAN from slower devices?
I'm pretty sure network switches don't work that way. I have mixed 100Mb and 1000Mb plugged into both my switches. The GigE computers run fine mixed with 100Mb devices and computers.
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Old 02-12-2009, 05:12 PM
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yep.. only the port connected @ 100 is limited to 100. You migth be thinking of some wireless switches that have to slow down the lowest common speed but wired switches don't have that issue.
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Old 02-12-2009, 06:17 PM
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Pete,

What is the speed of the network card in your server. If it can support GigE then buy yourself a cheap 5 port GigE workgroup switch. I have heard of people hooking their HDHRs off a second nic but I'm not sure how they told the HDHR software to look on that non-default network route for it.
If you have a second card then the second nic can be on a separate lan, just do not assign a gateway address. The alterantive is to VLAN the link between the HDHR and the Server.
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