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Old 12-01-2008, 12:11 PM
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VMWare and Hauppauge HD-PVR

I'm thinking about running Sage as a backend server in a VMWare guest. As long as I throw enough hardware at it I don't expect to have a problem. I'm using an HDHR and the new HD200 extenders so all of that will be network based.

My concern is with the HD-PVR being USB. I know the newest version of VMWare Server is much better about USB support. I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this before. Performance issues? Full USB 2.0 throughput?

Thanks!
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:48 PM
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Tried free Sun VirtualBox?

Seemed to me to do most of what VMWare does.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:13 AM
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I've looked at that and it looks ok. VMWare Server 2.0 is free also, and more mature. For the Apple lover in me I'm excited about the VirtualBox option though.
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:02 AM
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I've been using free Sun VirtualBox on Win XP to host several versions of Linux.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:26 AM
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Run it on Microsofts VirtualPC. Its free and runs way faster than that free VMware software. I switched and am a very happy camper! But I haven't tried running an HDPVR on it..
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:18 PM
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I'm thinking about running Sage as a backend server in a VMWare guest. As long as I throw enough hardware at it I don't expect to have a problem. I'm using an HDHR and the new HD200 extenders so all of that will be network based.

My concern is with the HD-PVR being USB. I know the newest version of VMWare Server is much better about USB support. I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this before. Performance issues? Full USB 2.0 throughput?

Thanks!
Couple thoughts. I use VMWare Workstation for development work on a daily basis, so I understand some of your issues. I've never used their USB stuff though. I'd look around VMWare's forums and see what kind of throughput people are getting for keywords like "Transfering files from my digital camera to my VMWare Guest" or "USB 802.11b/g throughput". Might give you some idea of what performance hit you might get.

My second thought/concern would be if you should keep your video files on a virtual disk or if you should get VMWare to mount a physical disk. My inclination would be to mount a physical disk, but I have no good reason to back it up.

I am slightly curious as to why you are thinking of doing this. Hardware abstraction? Wanting to run it on your "normal" computer but wanting to isolate it?
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:43 AM
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I cannot tell about HD PVR but I am running Windows Guest under Linux host using the free VMWare server 2.0. I am using it for video conferencing to run Skype under Windows and my USB webcam works very well, no issues with performance of either video or sound both coming via USB.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:27 AM
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I was running 2 HDPVR's using VMware Server 2.0 before I compiled the drivers and ran it all in linux. I had no issues at all with doing this no hiccups or anything. I had them running as a network encoder to the linux server. let me know if you have any issues.

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Old 12-08-2008, 03:25 PM
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I was running 2 HDPVR's using VMware Server 2.0 before I compiled the drivers and ran it all in linux. I had no issues at all with doing this no hiccups or anything. I had them running as a network encoder to the linux server. let me know if you have any issues.

Jayson
Excellent to hear your success. It makes it that much more easier when I make the attempt (hopefully early in the new year).
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