Plugin: Mobile Web Interface 1.2

[jreichen]

Originally Posted by OttoNP

Thanks for taking the time to find that link..even then it says the max is 1 mb, most of my converted files are at lease 90 mb. If I could just download them on my labtop that would be great, but for some reason it just links to a 0 byte files, like the link is broke. maybe someone else can try it to see if it is just me or not...

Thanks

If you browse to the file outside Sage, how big is it? Do you have nielm's web server installed? I'm curious what happens when you click on the file links in the details page there.

[OttoNP]

It is about 100 mb file, well over the 1mb limit...I do not have nielm's webserver. I can download files that I did not convert no problem, so it appears that the problem lies in maintaining a link. I have tried both replacing the original file with the converted file and creating a new separate file. In both cases the link request matches the video number, but it just downloads a 0 byte size file...

[SageGk]

I got this working, only problem I have is that I cannot control the extenders. For example, if I login and want to shutdown an extender or turn off what it is watching (to free up a tuner), I can't find an option to do so. Am I missing something?

[jreichen]

Originally Posted by SageGk

I got this working, only problem I have is that I cannot control the extenders. For example, if I login and want to shutdown an extender or turn off what it is watching (to free up a tuner), I can't find an option to do so. Am I missing something?

There isn't a remote but you can go to the menu page and click 'Home'. At the top of the next page you should see a list of extenders and placeshifters under 'Now Playing'. If something is playing you can click 'Stop Playback'. There's no option to turn it off, though.

[Clipse]

Ok i`m in a bit of need here...

I have the mobile web interface installed and can log in on network inside house. I want to be able to login via iphone when i`m at work or school to schdule recordings. What do I need to do to access Sage from outside the home network?

TYIA

[GKusnick]

Originally Posted by Clipse

What do I need to do to access Sage from outside the home network?

You must configure your router's port forwarding to send incoming traffic on the webserver port to your SageTV server.

[Clipse]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

You must configure your router's port forwarding to send incoming traffic on the webserver port to your SageTV server.

Some instructions on this somewhere? Sorry not too educated on port forwarding. I know a bit. Not sure about sagetv server also....

I`ll keep doing some searching but please any info will help

[GKusnick]

Your router's manual or online help would be the best place to look for specific instructions on how to configure port forwarding on your model. But basically you want to find the page in the router's browser-based setup interface that handles port forwarding, and add an entry that pairs your webserver port number with the LAN IP address or computer name of your SageTV server.

The port number is whatever port number you chose when setting up the Sage Jetty plugin (in step 5 of the Jetty setup instructions).

Your SageTV server is the computer where you have SageTV and the Jetty plugin installed. You can determine its IP address by typing ipconfig at a command prompt. But note that this can change if you use DHCP, so you probably want to configure your router to assign a fixed IP address to that machine. (Again, see your router's documentation for specifics.)

[Clipse]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

Your router's manual or online help would be the best place to look for specific instructions on how to configure port forwarding on your model. But basically you want to find the page in the router's browser-based setup interface that handles port forwarding, and add an entry that pairs your webserver port number with the LAN IP address or computer name of your SageTV server.

The port number is whatever port number you chose when setting up the Sage Jetty plugin (in step 5 of the Jetty setup instructions).

Your SageTV server is the computer where you have SageTV and the Jetty plugin installed. You can determine its IP address by typing ipconfig at a command prompt. But note that this can change if you use DHCP, so you probably want to configure your router to assign a fixed IP address to that machine. (Again, see your router's documentation for specifics.)

Ok, doing some reading right now and seeing that you need to send your ip through a DNS server name? I guess register it? Or has that changed in time as this info looks from 2004-2005

[GKusnick]

First things first. Do you know your Jetty plugin's port number and your Sage server's LAN IP address? Have you found the port forwarding page in your router's setup? Nothing will work from outside your LAN until you get that configured correctly.

You'll also need to know your router's WAN IP address, i.e. the one assigned by your ISP. You can get this from your router's status page. (If this is not a static IP, you may need to do something later with DNS, but we're not there yet.)

Once you have all that, with port forwarding configured on your router, try accessing the web server from your iPhone using the router's WAN IP and the Jetty port number, like so:

http://wan-IP:port/sagem/m/

Does that work? If so, and if both your Sage server's LAN IP and your router's WAN IP are static (never change), then that's it; you're done. If either one of them is dynamic and can change, then you'll need to take some extra steps to get around that.

[Clipse]

jetty port ---- check

Lan ip --- is that like 192.168.0.1? or 192.168.1.105?

Wan ip --- is that like your physical ip?

I think that is where I am at as I have been on the port forwarding page in the router but I get confused when it asks for an ip address there. The computer with sagetv on it should already have an ip on the network correct? And that is the same ip I should put in the forwarding page correct?

[GKusnick]

Originally Posted by Clipse

Lan ip --- is that like 192.168.0.1? or 192.168.1.105?

Either of those would be a plausible value. Again, running ipconfig on your Sage server will tell you the actual value.

Originally Posted by Clipse

Wan ip --- is that like your physical ip?

Your router has two IP addresses: an internal one (LAN IP) and an external one (WAN IP). The WAN IP is the one used by your ISP and the Internet at large to direct traffic to your router. Your router then distributes it to hosts on your LAN (using their LAN IP addresses). Your router's Status page should list both of these IP addresses.

Originally Posted by Clipse

I think that is where I am at as I have been on the port forwarding page in the router but I get confused when it asks for an ip address there. The computer with sagetv on it should already have an ip on the network correct? And that is the same ip I should put in the forwarding page correct?

Yes, you want the router to forward traffic on that port to your Sage server. So it's the Sage server's IP address you should put in there.

[Clipse]

GOT IT!!! Thank you very very much! I was getting the ips confused....

[GKusnick]

OK, now the next thing is to make sure your IPs don't change. On the LAN side, you can do this by going to the DHCP setup section of your router and making sure it always assigns the same address to your Sage server. For this you'll need to know the MAC (physical) address of your server's network adapter, which you can get from ipconfig /all or from your router's Connected Devices page.

On the WAN side it's trickier. It's possible you already have a static IP from your ISP. If not, you'll either have to ask them for one (which may cost money), or you can use one of the free DNS services such as dyndns.com to map a host name to your dynamic IP. Your router may have the ability to update one of these services automatically; you'll have to check your router documentation for that.

[jbuszkie]

This was working fine for me but something happened.. I tried it recently and
its now not working!

Here is the error I get


Error
Message: jetty\webapps\SageWebApp\webapp\WEB-INF\mobile_menu.json (The system cannot find the path specified)
Page Generated Mon Mar 22 11:45:15 EDT 2010
SageTV Mobile Web Interface Version 1.2

I deleted the deployed file and tried to start again.. but no avail..

Where else can I look?

Jim

[jreichen]

It sounds like you changed the context xml file to extract the app to the system temp directory. The mobile web interface currently has a bug where it can't find the menu definition if it's not in the webapps/SageWebApp directory. As a workaround, you can put a copy of the menu in another folder as described in the menu customization wiki page.

[Trouble]

I recently found out about the mobile version of web interface. Is there a reason why the web remote was not implemented? Is it really hard, or is there too little demand?

I'd love to be able to change the channels on the HD Extender with the mobile web interface.

-Trouble

[jreichen]

When I started developing the mobile web interface, mobile browsers weren't nearly as powerful as they are now. I experimented with a web remote but it wasn't usable given how page refreshes (yes, even when using Ajax on the phone I had at the time) would take a while and would reload to the top of the page. Javascript support is required for Ajax and was spotty as well.

Now that mobile browsers are becoming more powerful and more Ajax-friendly (firing off a command to the Sage server without refreshing the web page) and devices have larger screens, it's more likely that it would be a better user experience.

So far people have been using nielm's web server's remote or native phone apps such as IntelliRemote for the iPhone as remote controls.

[SageGk]

Recently I have been running into problems. It seems that I need to reconfigure.Reinstall the plugin every few days or I keep getting a 404 error. Any idea what can cause this?

[GKusnick]

Originally Posted by SageGk

Recently I have been running into problems. It seems that I need to reconfigure.Reinstall the plugin every few days or I keep getting a 404 error. Any idea what can cause this?

Do you use Disk Cleanup Wizard or something similar to clean up your Temp directory periodically? If so, you could be inadvertantly deleting the web app's deployment.